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{{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}} from upgrading {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Defence|Amulets of Defence}}, which are dropped by {{MonsterIcon|Purple Goo Monster|Purple Goo Monsters}}, and {{ItemIcon|Silver Diamond Ring}}, dropped by {{MonsterIcon|Mummy|Mummies}}, are our best friends for now; the limiting factor for the remaining dungeons is how much DR you have access to. | {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}} from upgrading {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Defence|Amulets of Defence}}, which are dropped by {{MonsterIcon|Purple Goo Monster|Purple Goo Monsters}}, and {{ItemIcon|Silver Diamond Ring}}, dropped by {{MonsterIcon|Mummy|Mummies}}, are our best friends for now; the limiting factor for the remaining dungeons is how much DR you have access to. | ||
Now that you've got full {{ItemIcon|(G) Rune Platebody|Rune (G)}} and {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}} for | Now that you've got full {{ItemIcon|(G) Rune Platebody|Rune (G)}} and {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}} for 32% DR, 88 hitpoints will allow you to idle {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} for your first useful cape, the {{ItemIcon|Fire Cape}}. At this point, you can expect to eat around 3000 {{ItemIcon|Potatoes}} per kill without prayer. | ||
You're probably noticing that {{ItemIcon|potatoes}} just won't cut it for food anymore, so switching to {{MonsterIcon|Sweaty Monster|Sweaty Monsters}} for {{ItemIcon|Salmon}} and {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} will reduce your overall time spent farming food. Expect to get food equivalent to 10.2 hp/kill in {{ItemIcon|Salmon}}, 6.25 hp/kill in {{ItemIcon|Lobster}}, and 2.3 hp/kill in {{ItemIcon|Shark}}. Swapping food sources often means that saving all 3 types of fish might not be worth it for some players. | You're probably noticing that {{ItemIcon|potatoes}} just won't cut it for food anymore, so switching to {{MonsterIcon|Sweaty Monster|Sweaty Monsters}} for {{ItemIcon|Salmon}} and {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} will reduce your overall time spent farming food. Expect to get food equivalent to 10.2 hp/kill in {{ItemIcon|Salmon}}, 6.25 hp/kill in {{ItemIcon|Lobster}}, and 2.3 hp/kill in {{ItemIcon|Shark}}. Swapping food sources often means that saving all 3 types of fish might not be worth it for some players. |
Revision as of 19:11, 21 September 2021
This page was last updated for (v0.19). |
The major part of this guide is written by @Username#7620 and @mazunki [they/them]#3247 on the Discord community. If you got any questions, or anything is wrong make sure to shout out to either one of us. Feel free to edit the guide, or add stuff to it too.
Thanks to everyone in #hardcore-mode-chat for making this possible. :)
Preface
Food is vital to a HCCO account and your first food source (and one that you will be relying on for quite a while) is plants. Starting out, you should fight plants for the potatoes they drop and to increase your combat levels.
Note about ATK vs
STR vs
DEF: All three combat skills are very useful to level in their own ways. ATK increases your chance to hit and unlocks new weapons to use, STR increases your maximum hit, and DEF increases your chance to not get hit (which saves you food). In general, they should all be leveled equally.
DEF should be your first combat skill that you level, as it greatly reduces the amount of damage that you will take from plants (roughly by half). ATK should be second and STR should be last (since you have a low chance to hit, it’s more important to level ATK rather than STR).
Weapons in this game have different attack speeds depending on their type. Daggers attack quickly, with an attack speed of 2.2 seconds, and Battleaxes attack slowly, with an attack speed of 3.1 seconds, for instance. Weapons that attack more slowly also deal more damage per hit and weapons that hit quickly usually do less damage per hit.
There are different styles in the game, depending on the weapon you’re wielding. Melee weapons, which will be our main focus for the first part, have Stab, Slash and Block. Each style gets a bonus to the accuracy rating depending on the specific weapon. Swords usually have a better stabbing accuracy, while scimitars are better at slashing, for instance. The style you choose will also give you experience towards the combat skill in question: Stabbing gives Attack experience, Slashing gives Strength experience, while Blocking is used to train Defence. During the beginning of HCCO, you’ll have to eat manually to ensure that you won’t die. Later on, you’ll be able to automatically eat food so eating will be less of a worry.
Chapter 0: Your first gear
Start: Naked End: 4 steel pieces
You should get to about 10 in all melee combat skills (usually expressed as 10/10/10) by fighting plants and then it’s time to start getting your first gear.
Chapter 0—I: Starting naked
After you have a decent stack of food, it’s time to get your first pieces of gear from the Golbin. You should have some levels in all skills (10/10/10 or so) and about a hundred
potatoes or so. You’re looking for a
Bronze Battleaxe (1 in 27 chance) and a
Bronze Shield (1 in 27 chance). If you get unlucky, don’t worry. Just kill plants for food until you’re able to get both.
Plants have very low HP, so having a faster weapon allows you to kill them faster, as you don’t need more than 20 damage to kill a plant. So, your next goal after your
Bronze Battleaxe is an
Iron Dagger. You should have about 15/15/15 stats and a few hundred potatoes. The
Iron Dagger has a 1/33 drop rate from the
Goo Monster.
Your next gear upgrades will come from Zombie Hand. You’re looking for the
Iron Platebody (1 in 4 chance) and
Iron Platelegs (1 in 4 chance). Some people might go for the
Steel Knight first, but since the
Zombie Hand has a better chance for gear, it’s recommended to do it first. You should have about 20/20/20 stats for this and, once again, a large stack of
taters.
After you kill the
Zombie Hand, you should then move on to the regular
Zombie for the
Steel Platebody (1 in 5 chance). It also drops
Steel Boots (1 in 5 chance), but you shouldn’t grind for them since
Steel Knights are easier to get them from the
Steel Knight. (20/20/20 stats recommended)
You’ll end the first part of your HCCO journey with
Steel Knights. They drop the
Steel Helmet (15 in 67 chance),
Steel Shield (10 in 67 chance),
Steel Sword (10 in 67 chance), and
Steel Scimitar (4 in 67 chance). You should be using the
Steel Sword on ATK and DEF and the
Scimitar on STR when killing most monsters, but again, daggers should be used on plants due to the fast attack rate.
Chapter II: Mithril armor
Start: 5x Steel Armour, 10/10/10, Steel Scimitar End: Amulet of Looting, AE1, 5x Mithril Armor, 40/40/40, Ice Sword, Adamant Dagger
The next Knight after Steel is
Black, but should skip it, as the drop chances are very low, and the next tier is not much harder anyway.
Your next step, therefore, is Mithril Knights. Because they only drop gear a quarter of the time when killed (on average), it can take quite a while to get a full
mithril set. You will probably get
boots (25 in 268) and
helmets (15 in 268) quite often, and the eventual
platelegs (5 in 268). The
platebody has quite a low drop-chance (1 in 568). This is quite the trend on these knights. Before getting the
platebody you will probably get both a
scimitar (1 in 67) and a
shield (5/134), too, so equip these once dropped, for a decent upgrade. You may equip the
sword, too, but I’d stick with the
Scimitar for now, to efficiently level up your
Strength skill before practically perma-equipping the
Ice Sword for a long while.
As mentioned, you will want to get the Ice Sword after getting full
Mithril armor, or even before getting the
platebody, as it is a really good upgrade at this point. It is practically a cold
Rune Sword, in stats, except it is slightly better defensively than offensively. The drop rate is 10% at the
Ice Monster over at the
Icy Hills. Huge. If you’re around level 30, you will use around 80
tarters per monster. Because of variance, you might get it on your first kill or your 20th, but don’t be discouraged. Also, the
Ice Sword is better at grinding
Strength than all weapons from a lower tier, meaning that the next best strength weapon after.
Now, before you go away from the computer, or to sleep, it’s time to upgrade your dagger. At the Purple Goo Monster you can get a cheap
Adamant Dagger. Going from 429 to 444
Potatoes/hour? Good business.
Feeling sad because your neck and fingers are naked? Go on a date with the
mummy in
Penumbra for some gifts! The
Amulet of Strength and the
Gold Emerald Ring are shiny, and will give you free gains! For only 3 potatoes per kill you have the same ~10% chance to get both these items.
Chapter II—A: Looting Amulet
The Looting Amulet is a special amulet which automatically loots gear acquired from Combat Areas and Slayer Areas. You may get it from the
Spider Chest, with a 1/22 chance. Due to the nature of HCCO, you will spend a lot of potatoes in the early game (and beyond, too), so you might want to rush this item in order to ease the grind for food as soon as possible.
By using Mithril Armor, and having around 40 melee stats, it will take you around 500 taters per run of the
Spider Forest. Before you start running the dungeon, you should have a buffer of at least a thousand potatoes, just because RNG might be on your bad side.
It is quite possible to beat the zone without having any form of Auto Eat, and just make sure you time your manual eating right, since the damage of the spiders in the area is not too high.
Don’t do this, please
Otherwise, if you really don’t want to manual the dungeon, you should know the base max damage of the zone is 142, requiring 710 hp for AE1, 480 hp for AE2. This requires 6 million gold, which would require around 30 hours of active gameplay at Master Farmer, since you still don’t have auto looting. Bad idea.
Chapter II—B: Auto Eat 1
As soon as you have your hands on an Amulet of Looting, you can start to make money. A relevant point to make here, is that money making at this stage is a compromise between risk and reward. Consider the time it takes to farm up the food you need, and the time it takes to farm the gold you want.
Safe path
The safest way to make money, for now, is to kill Cows, collecting their
leather, and upgrading it into
Green Leather through the shop. The selling price for
Leather is 50 GP, while the selling price for
Green Leather is 200 GP. By upgrading it, you effectively get 100 GP per piece of
Leather.
Assuming you’ve got the Ice Sword, the average gold yield per
cow is 203 GP.
This chapter ends when you’re 40/40/40. Use Adamant Dagger for idling
plants, and
Ice Sword for tougher enemies.
Chapter III: Mithril to adamant (g) + rune boots (g) + rune gloves
Start: Amulet of Looting, AE1, 5x Mithril Armor, 40/40/40, Ice Sword, Adamant Dagger End: 4x (G) Adamant Armor, 1x (G) Rune Boots, 1x Rune Gloves, 70/40/70
How does it feel to be able to get FREE FOOD overnight?
While your next target is necessarily Adamant Knights, you should know that leveling attack and defense up to 50 from your 40 stats will effectively reduce your (raw, without AE efficiency loss)
potato per knight count from 170 to 120.
Important note: DO NOT IDLE KNIGHTS. Make sure to always have more HP than the max hit of the enemy, and try to eat food right after your attack timer ends, so you don’t reset an attack in progress. Eat until full HP, or at least until you have enough HP to survive any attack. The 2.6s interval of the
Adamant Knight is not really a danger provided you’re PAYING ATTENTION and have enough food.
Your Ice Sword is great for leveling
Attack, and your
dagger is fine for leveling defense. You may do this at
Statue, in preparation to gear upgrades, and thus your first Damage Reduction points!!
Each Adamant piece has a 1/48 chance of dropping, which, mind you, is much better than the drop chances of
Rune Knight. Good luck on that! While you don’t really care about the
Green Boots nor the
Obsidian Cape, you may as well equip them once you get them. It will be a while until you replace the
Cape for anything else, but there’s no point wasting
Silver/
Gold bars on the
Boots. You will get
Rune Boots quickly anyway.
Upgrade the Equipment you get to (G) Adamant as soon as you get them, since each piece gives you 4% damage reduction.
Now, grind up enough Slayer Coins for the Desert Hat, and 50
Slayer levels, so you can gain access to the
Arid Plains. You may as well kill
Master Farmers, for Gold Coins; or hit some
Statues for some
Gold and
Silver Bars, which are both Easy Slayer Tasks, meaning they’re free to reroll.
Now, why would you want to unlock Arid Plains? Well, there’s a few reasons:
Sand Treaders at
Turkul Riders — -0.1s to all attacks? Great for plants.
Rune Boots at
Turkul Riders — Excellent upgrade, easier to get than from
Rune Knights.
Desert Wrappings at
Turkul Archers — 2% dr gloves, best until
Paladin Gloves.
Also, you don’t even need to manual these two enemies! After getting these upgrades, you should keep on to your hat (literally!), because your next weapon upgrade comes from the Turkul Giant at the same area. You could also sell the hat, and rebuy it a bit later. The Slayer Coin cost is not too huge.
Farm up enough Gold to upgrade your Auto Eat to Tier II at Master Farmer. With Auto-Eat II you can idle
Turkul Giants, provided you have 23% dr and level
50 HP. With this, upgrade your weapon into the
Dragon Scimitar or, even better, the
Desert Sabre.
Farming at Master Farmer
The Master Farmer gives a total of 14 unique items. You want to prioritize your bank slots for the most rewarding items, taking the price and drop rate into account. This mainly comprises the Tree Seeds, requiring 5 slots. By reserving five slots for the Master Farmer grind, you get a total of 84% of the gold drops. That’s around 809 gp per kill.
Oak Tree Seeds >
Willow Tree Seeds >
Maple Tree Seeds >
Yew Tree Seeds >
Magic Tree Seeds >
Compost >
Sweetcorn Seeds >
Tomato Seeds >
Strawberry Seeds.
And it was done.
Chapter IV: Adamant to full rune (g)
Start: 4x (G) Adamant Armour, 1x (G) Rune Boots, 1x Rune Gloves, 70/40/70 End: 5x (G) Rune Armour, 1x Paladin Gloves, Elite Amulet of Strength. 70/80/80, Sunset Rapier / Ancient Claw, AE3
The first thing you should do in this part of the story is to upgrade your Amulet of Strength into an
Elite one, simply by farming more
Mummies. On average you need to kill around a thousand of them.
You may wait to get the
Paladin Gloves until after getting
Rune Armor, or you may get it already. At this point you will use around 65 potatoes per
Paladin kill, and the chance to get them is 1/171. Not too hard.
The next step is to farm the feared shiny Rune Knights, and upgrade your four armor pieces into
(G) Rune pieces, for a total of 29% damage reduction with the
Paladin Gloves. You will need a bunch of
Gold and
Silver pieces, farmed at
Statue.
You may get Auto Eat III now, or after the 2nd loadout slot, and consider getting the 3rd and last loadout slot while at it too.
Assuming you already have 60 Slayer (and if you don't, then go get it;
Giant Crab tasks are your friend here), the last thing to get before moving onto the next section is a better weapon.
Deep Sea Ship is your next stop for a
Sunset Rapier to speed up killing
Pegasus. You'll be killing around 3300 of them to get 100
Ancient Claw Fragment which can be upgraded into the
Ancient Claw. This will be a great weapon until you upgrade it to the
Infernal Claw, which is still well off. Don't bother getting any
Dragon Claw Fragment from
Griffin yet, as they will just take up space. If you're lucky enough to get an
Ancient Sword before the
Sunset Rapier, then feel free to use it until you get to
Volcanic Cave, as it will drastically reduce your food consumption and the associated food farming time. After that, you'll probably only want to use it outside dungeons due to the high monster damage reducing the benefits of the lifesteal.
Chapter V: Rune (g) to ancient (g)
Ancient storyline
Start: 5x (G) Rune Armour, 1x Paladin Gloves, Elite Amulet of Strength. 70/80/80, Sunset Rapier / Ancient Claw, AE3 End: 4x (G) Ancient Armour, 1x Paladin Gloves, Elite Amulet of Defence, 90/99/90, Dragonfire Shield, Sandstorm Ring
Elite Amulet of Defence from upgrading
Amulets of Defence, which are dropped by
Purple Goo Monsters, and
Silver Diamond Ring, dropped by
Mummies, are our best friends for now; the limiting factor for the remaining dungeons is how much DR you have access to.
Now that you've got full Rune (G) and
Paladin Gloves for 32% DR, 88 hitpoints will allow you to idle
Volcanic Cave for your first useful cape, the
Fire Cape. At this point, you can expect to eat around 3000
Potatoes per kill without prayer.
You're probably noticing that potatoes just won't cut it for food anymore, so switching to
Sweaty Monsters for
Salmon and
Lobster will reduce your overall time spent farming food. Expect to get food equivalent to 10.2 hp/kill in
Salmon, 6.25 hp/kill in
Lobster, and 2.3 hp/kill in
Shark. Swapping food sources often means that saving all 3 types of fish might not be worth it for some players.
Hopefully you find the Volcanic Cave comfortable, as the goal is to get the
Ancient Platebody,
Ancient Platelegs,
Ancient Helmet, and
Ancient Shield. There are no Ancient Boots and
Dragon Boots are unobtainable on HCCO (as is the
Dragon Helmet,) so you'll continue rocking your
(G) Rune Boots for quite awhile. Getting the
Dragon Platebody and/or
Dragon Platelegs is only useful if you plan to upgrade them to (G), as you still need the extra DR that comes from the (G) upgrade. Once you get your full
Ancient Armor, make another visit to
Statues to finish off gathering
Gold Bars and
Silver Bars and upgrade everything to (G). Luckily the
Elite Chests you've been opening also drop plenty of
Silver Bars and
Gold Bars. In total, you'll need 6000
Silver Bars and 10,000
Gold Bars for full
(G) Ancient Armor. If you get all the
Silver Bars you need, move to
Purple Goo Monsters for faster
Gold Bars. You can also hold onto the
Amulets of Fury for the
Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs grind later; you'll need 10
furies in total.
After getting the (G) Ancient Shield, there's nothing stopping you from immediately upgrading it again to the
Dragonfire Shield, so head to the
Green Dragons to get 7050
Dragon Bones. You can alternatively wait until getting some range levels, as
Green Dragons are slightly weaker to mage and range than to melee, but at this level, you shouldn't have any trouble, and the 8% DR of the
DFS will be very useful as a mage and range offhand for God dungeons.
Another grind that can be done around this time is the Sandstorm Ring from
Sand Beasts, which will be your best-in-slot melee dps ring. (Note that as of v0.21, the
Sandstorm Ring can no longer be used to cheese early range and mage training; the special attack is now melee only.)
Once you have full (G) Ancient Armor and
DFS for 44% DR (or 41% with
looting and
Sandstorm Ring, it's time to grind any remaining melee skills to ideally at least 90/99/90 while working your way towards 70 slayer for your next food upgrade -
Trout from
Raging Horned Elites or RHE; you can also take advantage of the
Gold Emerald Ring from
Mummies to speed up stat grinding. Once you get to this point, you can expect 447.8 hp in food for every kill! Once you start killing
RHE, hold onto the
Ancient Arrows they drop as they're your best arrows, even though they can't be equipped until level 70
Ranged. Additionally, the
Large Horns that they drop will likely replace
Master Farmers for GP farming, as the GP/hr is about the same (not to mention the food, arrows, and prayer points you're getting), with a much lower bank demand.
Ranged intro
Ranged is quite straightforward, but we’ve been pushing it forward for mainly two reasons: It doesn’t provide any real benefit until you start fighting wizards, or other magic monsters, and getting its gear without having the space in your bank or loadouts for the gear and weapon(s) will be annoying.
Get your first two bows (level 5 lets you use Oak Shortbow) from the
Ranged Golbin over at the
Golbin Village, and use the
Ice Arrows from the
Frozen Archer over at the
Icy Hills. These are almost as strong as
Rune Arrows, which you can start to use at level
40, but are much easier and cheaper to farm, and can be equipped from the very beginning.
Literally all your next upgrades, except if you go out of your way to get the
Yew Longbow from the Holy Archer at level
40, will come from the
Bandit Chest. At level
30 you can upgrade to the
Maple Longbow, at level 50 you can use the
Magic Longbow, and finally you will get to use the
Redwood Longbow and the
Ancient Longbow at levels 60 and 70.
Once you get into higher levels you may consider using the Adamant (worse than
Ice),
Rune and
Dragon Arrows you’ve collected from the
Bandit Chest. If you’re farming
Raging Horned Elite for food you may also use
Ancient Arrows in
ranged combat.
Magic Intro
Magic in this gamemode will mainly consist of casting air spells, since you can remove one colour from the rune costs. All spells cost air runes, but water, earth and fire runes additionally cost their respective runes.
This is a bad thing, for us, since we have no real way to farm a lot of runes yet, but we can get started by farming some catalyst runes at the Vampire and the
Master Wizard. The
Vampire is probably best for now, since it is a ranged monster, meaning we can strike it with melee, even considering the drop chance and drop rates are lower than from the master wizard.
Catalyst Runes are the runes you use to power up your spells, while Elemental runes select which element you’re using. You can remove the cost for Elemental runes with staves, which we will abuse to completely nullify the air cost, and thus only use air spells.
The Staff of Air reduces the cost by 1, allowing you to cast up to Wind Strike for free (20 dmg), the
Battlestaff reduces it by 3, allowing you to cast up to Wind Blast for free (130 dmg), while the
Mystic Air Staff reduces it by 5, allowing you to cast up to Wind Wave for free (170 dmg).
Keep in mind you will also need the Catalyst runes for each tier. Once you get to level 30 magic you can start wielding
battlestaves, and should therefore also cast Wind Bolts. No need for
Mind Runes anymore, so sell them all.
After you can cast Death spells, you might want to go back and forth between
Chaos Runes and
Death Runes, since they both deal decent damage, and are both farmed decently at the
Master Wizard for a while. Eventually, as you get more magic evasion through leveling
magic, you will only use
Death runes, as the
Necromancer stops hurting too much.
Ancient (g) to God gear and beyond (everything maxed, current end game)
Pre-Gods
TBD
Aeris
TBD
Glacia
TBD
Terran
TBD
Ragnar
TBD
ITM
TBD
Ocean stuff
TBD
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