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==Glacia== | ==Glacia== |
Revision as of 19:37, 27 September 2021
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The major part of this guide is written by @Username#7620 and @mazunki [they/them]#3247 on the Discord community. If you got any questions, or anything is wrong make sure to shout out to either one of us. Feel free to edit the guide, or add stuff to it too.
Thanks to everyone in #hardcore-mode-chat for making this possible. :)
Preface
Food is vital to a HCCO account and your first food source (and one that you will be relying on for quite a while) is plants. Starting out, you should fight plants for the potatoes they drop and to increase your combat levels.
Note aboutDEF should be your first combat skill that you level, as it greatly reduces the amount of damage that you will take from plants (roughly by half). ATK should be second and STR should be last (since you have a low chance to hit, it’s more important to level ATK rather than STR). Weapons in this game have different attack speeds depending on their type. Daggers attack quickly, with an attack speed of 2.2 seconds, and Battleaxes attack slowly, with an attack speed of 3.1 seconds, for instance. Weapons that attack more slowly also deal more damage per hit and weapons that hit quickly usually do less damage per hit.
There are different styles in the game, depending on the weapon you’re wielding. Melee weapons, which will be our main focus for the first part, have Stab, Slash and Block. Each style gets a bonus to the accuracy rating depending on the specific weapon. Swords usually have a better stabbing accuracy, while scimitars are better at slashing, for instance. The style you choose will also give you experience towards the combat skill in question: Stabbing gives Attack experience, Slashing gives Strength experience, while Blocking is used to train Defence. During the beginning of HCCO, you’ll have to eat manually to ensure that you won’t die. Later on, you’ll be able to automatically eat food so eating will be less of a worry.
Chapter 0: Your first gear
Start: Naked End: 4 steel pieces
You should get to about 10 in all melee combat skills (usually expressed as 10/10/10) by fighting plants and then it’s time to start getting your first gear.
Chapter 0—I: Starting naked
After you have a decent stack of food, it’s time to get your first pieces of gear from the Golbin. You should have some levels in all skills (10/10/10 or so) and about a hundred potatoes or so. You’re looking for a Bronze Battleaxe (1 in 27 chance) and a Bronze Shield (1 in 27 chance). If you get unlucky, don’t worry. Just kill plants for food until you’re able to get both. Plants have very low HP, so having a faster weapon allows you to kill them faster, as you don’t need more than 20 damage to kill a plant. So, your next goal after your Bronze Battleaxe is an Iron Dagger. You should have about 15/15/15 stats and a few hundred potatoes. The Iron Dagger has a 1/33 drop rate from the Goo Monster. Your next gear upgrades will come from Zombie Hand. You’re looking for the Iron Platebody (1 in 4 chance) and Iron Platelegs (1 in 4 chance). Some people might go for the Steel Knight first, but since the Zombie Hand has a better chance for gear, it’s recommended to do it first. You should have about 20/20/20 stats for this and, once again, a large stack of taters. After you kill the Zombie Hand, you should then move on to the regular Zombie for the Steel Platebody (1 in 5 chance). It also drops Steel Boots (1 in 5 chance), but you shouldn’t grind for them since Steel Knights are easier to get them from the Steel Knight. (20/20/20 stats recommended)
You’ll end the first part of your HCCO journey with Steel Knights. They drop the Steel Helmet (15 in 67 chance), Steel Shield (10 in 67 chance), Steel Sword (10 in 67 chance), and Steel Scimitar (4 in 67 chance). You should be using the Steel Sword on ATK and DEF and the Scimitar on STR when killing most monsters, but again, daggers should be used on plants due to the fast attack rate. The Mirror Shield is a useful item to get around here, but if you decide not to get it, you can avoid ever getting tasks in theChapter II: Mithril armor
Start: 5x Steel Armour, 10/10/10, Steel Scimitar End: Amulet of Looting, AE1, 5x Mithril Armor, 40/40/40, Ice Sword, Adamant Dagger
The next Knight after Steel is Black, but should skip it, as the drop chances are very low, and the next tier is not much harder anyway.
But before you visit the Mithril Knight you'll want to take a detour to fight the Mummy for Amulet of Strength and Gold Emerald Ring to fill out your neck and ring slots. Your next step, therefore, is Mithril Knights. Because they only drop gear a quarter of the time when killed (on average), it can take quite a while to get a full mithril set. You will probably get boots (25 in 268) and helmets (15 in 268) quite often, and the eventual platelegs (5 in 268). The platebody has quite a low drop-chance (1 in 568). This is quite the trend on these knights. Before getting the platebody you will probably get both a scimitar (1 in 67) and a shield (5/134), too, so equip these once dropped, for a decent upgrade. You may equip the sword, too, but I’d stick with the Scimitar for now, to efficiently level up yourNow, before you go away from the computer, or to sleep, it’s time to upgrade your dagger. At the Purple Goo Monster you can get a cheap Adamant Dagger. Going from 429 to 444 Potatoes/hour? Good business.
Chapter II—A: Looting Amulet
The Looting Amulet is a special amulet which automatically loots gear acquired from Combat Areas and Slayer Areas. You may get it from the Spider Chest, with a 1/22 chance. Due to the nature of HCCO, you will spend a lot of potatoes in the early game (and beyond, too), so you might want to rush this item in order to ease the grind for food as soon as possible.
By using Mithril Armor, and having around 40 melee stats, it will take you around 500 taters per run of theIt is quite possible to beat the zone without having any form of Auto Eat, and just make sure you time your manual eating right, since the damage of the spiders in the area is not too high.
Don’t do this, please
Otherwise, if you really don’t want to manual the dungeon, you should know the base max damage of the zone is 142, requiring 710 hp for AE1, 480 hp for AE2. This requires 6 million gold, which would require around 30 hours of active gameplay at Master Farmer, since you still don’t have auto looting. Bad idea.
Chapter II—B: Auto Eat 1
As soon as you have your hands on an Amulet of Looting, you can start to make money. A relevant point to make here, is that money making at this stage is a compromise between risk and reward. Consider the time it takes to farm up the food you need, and the time it takes to farm the gold you want.
Safe path
The safest way to make money, for now, is to kill Cows, collecting their leather, and upgrading it into Green Leather through the shop. The selling price for Leather is 50 GP, while the selling price for Green Leather is 200 GP. By upgrading it, you effectively get 100 GP per piece of Leather.
Assuming you’ve got the Ice Sword, the average gold yield per cow is 203 GP.
This chapter ends when you’re 40/40/40. Use Adamant Dagger for idling plants, and Ice Sword for tougher enemies.
Chapter III: Mithril to adamant (g) + rune boots (g) + rune gloves
Start: Amulet of Looting, AE1, 5x Mithril Armor, 40/40/40, Ice Sword, Adamant Dagger End: 4x (G) Adamant Armor, 1x (G) Rune Boots, 1x Rune Gloves, 70/40/70
How does it feel to be able to get FREE FOOD overnight?
While your next target is necessarily Adamant Knights, you should know that leveling attack and defense up to 50 from your 40 stats will effectively reduce your (raw, without AE efficiency loss) potato per knight count from 170 to 120. additionally, if you decided not to get the Amulet of Calculated Promotion previously, you should definitely get it now, since you'll have extremely low accuracy on the next two knights.
Important note: DO NOT IDLE KNIGHTS. Make sure to always have moreEach Adamant piece has a 1/48 chance of dropping, which, mind you, is much better than the drop chances of Rune Knight. Good luck on that! While you don’t really care about the Green Boots nor the Obsidian Cape, you may as well equip them once you get them. It will be a while until you replace the Cape for anything else, but there’s no point wasting Silver/ Gold bars on the Boots. You will get Rune Boots quickly anyway.
Upgrade the Equipment you get to (G) Adamant as soon as you get them, since each piece gives you 4% damage reduction.
Now, grind up enough Slayer Coins for the Desert Hat, and 50Now, why would you want to unlock Arid Plains? Well, there’s a few reasons:
- Sand Treaders at Turkul Riders — -0.1s to all attacks? Great for plants.
- Rune Boots at Turkul Riders — Excellent upgrade, easier to get than from Rune Knights.
- Desert Wrappings at Turkul Archers — 2% dr gloves, best until Paladin Gloves.
Also, you don’t even need to manual these two enemies! After getting these upgrades, you should keep on to your hat (literally!), because your next weapon upgrade comes from the Turkul Giant at the same area. You could also sell the hat, and rebuy it a bit later. The Slayer Coin cost is not too huge.
Farm up enough Gold to upgrade your Auto Eat to Tier II at Master Farmer. With Auto-Eat II you can idle Turkul Giants, provided you have 23% dr and level
Farming at Master Farmer
The Master Farmer gives a total of 14 unique items. You want to prioritize your bank slots for the most rewarding items, taking the price and drop rate into account. This mainly comprises the Tree Seeds, requiring 5 slots. By reserving five slots for the Master Farmer grind, you get a total of 84% of the gold drops. That’s around 809 gp per kill.
Oak Tree Seeds > Willow Tree Seeds > Maple Tree Seeds > Yew Tree Seeds > Magic Tree Seeds > Compost > Sweetcorn Seeds > Tomato Seeds > Strawberry Seeds.
And it was done.
Chapter IV: Adamant to full rune (g)
Start: 4x (G) Adamant Armour, 1x (G) Rune Boots, 1x Rune Gloves, 70/40/70 End: 5x (G) Rune Armour, 1x Paladin Gloves, Elite Amulet of Strength. 70/80/80, Sunset Rapier / Ancient Claw, AE3
The first thing you should do in this part of the story is to upgrade your Amulet of Strength into an Elite one, simply by farming more Mummies. On average you need to kill around a thousand of them. You may wait to get the Paladin Gloves until after getting Rune Armor, or you may get it already. At this point you will use around 65 potatoes per Paladin kill, and the chance to get them is 1/171. Not too hard.
The next step is to farm the feared shiny Rune Knights, and upgrade your four armor pieces into (G) Rune pieces, for a total of 29% damage reduction with the Paladin Gloves. You will need a bunch of Gold and Silver pieces, farmed at Statue. You may get Auto Eat III now, or after the 2nd loadout slot, and consider getting the 3rd and last loadout slot while at it too.
Assuming you already have 60Chapter V: Rune (g) to ancient (g)
Ancient storyline
Start: 5x (G) Rune Armour, 1x Paladin Gloves, Elite Amulet of Strength. 70/80/80, Sunset Rapier / Ancient Claw, AE3 End: 4x (G) Ancient Armour, 1x Paladin Gloves, Elite Amulet of Defence, 90/99/90, Dragonfire Shield, Sandstorm Ring
Elite Amulet of Defence from upgrading Amulets of Defence, which are dropped by Purple Goo Monsters, and Silver Diamond Ring, dropped by Mummies, are our best friends for now; the limiting factor for the remaining dungeons is how much DR you have access to.
Now that you've got full Rune (G) and Paladin Gloves for 32% DR, 88 hitpoints will allow you to idleYou're probably noticing that potatoes just won't cut it for food anymore, so switching to Sweaty Monsters for Salmon and Lobster will reduce your overall time spent farming food. Expect to get food equivalent to 10.2 hp/kill in Salmon, 6.25 hp/kill in Lobster, and 2.3 hp/kill in Shark. Swapping food sources often means that saving all 3 types of fish might not be worth it for some players.
Hopefully you find theAfter getting the (G) Ancient Shield, there's nothing stopping you from immediately upgrading it again to the Dragonfire Shield, so head to the Green Dragons to get 7050 Dragon Bones. You can alternatively wait until getting some range levels, as Green Dragons are slightly weaker to mage and range than to melee, but at this level, you shouldn't have any trouble, and the 8% DR of the DFS will be very useful as a mage and range offhand for God dungeons.
Another grind that can be done around this time is the Sandstorm Ring from Sand Beasts, which will be your best-in-slot melee dps ring. (Note that as of v0.21, the Sandstorm Ring can no longer be used to cheese early range and mage training; the special attack is now melee only.)
Once you have full (G) Ancient Armor and DFS for 43% DR (or 40% with looting and Sandstorm Ring, it's time to grind any remaining melee skills to ideally at least 90/99/90 while working your way towards 70 slayer for your next food upgrade - Trout from Raging Horned Elites or RHE; you can also take advantage of the Gold Emerald Ring from Mummies to speed up stat grinding. Once you get to this point, you can expect 447.8 hp in food for every kill! Once you start killing RHE, hold onto the Ancient Arrows they drop as they're your best arrows, even though they can't be equipped until level 70Ranged intro
Magic Intro
This is a bad thing, for us, since we have no real way to farm a lot of runes yet, but we can get started by farming some catalyst runes at the Vampire and the Master Wizard. The Vampire is probably best for now, since it is a ranged monster, meaning we can strike it with melee, even considering the drop chance and drop rates are lower than from the master wizard.
Catalyst Runes are the runes you use to power up your spells, while Elemental runes select which element you’re using. You can remove the cost for Elemental runes with staves, which we will abuse to completely nullify the air cost, and thus only use air spells.
The Staff of Air reduces the cost by 1, allowing you to cast up to Wind Strike for free (20 dmg), the Battlestaff reduces it by 3, allowing you to cast up to Wind Blast for free (130 dmg), while the Mystic Air Staff reduces it by 5, allowing you to cast up to Wind Wave for free (170 dmg).
Keep in mind you will also need the Catalyst runes for each tier. Once you get to levelAncient (g) to God gear and beyond (everything maxed, current end game)
Pre-Gods
It's about time to get your best-statted amulet, the Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs, or FEZ. You don't have to do it now, as it provides the same 2% DR as that of the Elite Amulet of Defence, but the other offensive and defensive bonuses are not to be underestimated. Refer to the FEZ/Guide for getting all the materials to make it. The
pet is good to have by this point as well, as it's a free 1% DR. Another useful item to get around this time if you don't already have it is the Sandstorm Ring, for its unavoidable special attack.
Aeris
Getting 99/99/99 melee stats is not a bad plan at this point, but before moving into the
, you'll want to have at least 90/90/90 melee stats, full (G) Ancient melee armor, (G) Rune Boots, Paladin Gloves, Dragonfire Shield, Fire Cape, FEZ or Elite Amulet of Defence, and level 85
. This combination of armor will allow you to reach 43% DR and idle the
with as low as level 97 hp for 1000 total health, including the 30 hp bonus from the DFS. If your hp is at least level 95, then you can even use the (U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces for 2% DR more than Paladin Gloves.
Your goal is to get full Aeris God Armor from the Scrolls of Aeris, with the Stormsnap being optional. The Aeris Godsword is wholly unnecessary, as you'll want to keep using the DR of the DFS awhile longer, though all of the godswords can be used for non-dungeon grinding.
You'll want to hold on to the
which can be upgraded into Air Chests, containing various crossbow bolts. These won't be enough to supply you for the
but will at least save you some time grinding ammunition in the future. The Deadeye Amulet and the Deadeye Ring are each pretty good DPS increases for Ranged, but DR is so tight in most god dungeons that you may not be able to use it over the FEZ.
Glacia
Hopefully you've gotten the Finn, the Cat pet by now, because the 10 max health bonus makes DR and max hit calculations much easier, not to mention potentially saving you 1% DR here and there. That and the
pet will be assumed from here out for the sake of example gear, just for simplicity, alongside level 99
.
will be done with
. Your goal is 49% DR. While it's much easier to reach this threshold with the
from
and a Dragonfire Shield, gathering bolts from either Air Chests or
resupplies is pretty tedious (though autoslayer helps, and again, Giant Crab tasks are your friend. Use basic resupplies for the most ammo per SC,) so an alternative
if you have level 88is to use the Stone Skin prayer and the Ancient Longbow, full Aeris, FEZ, Silver Diamond Ring, and a Fire Cape. Without level 88 prayer, you'll have to use a shield. If you do go the
+ DFS route, then Aeris provides enough damage reduction for you to wear otherwise fully offensive gear, including the Deadeye Amulet, Deadeye Ring, and the Cape of Prat or Ranged Skillcape.
Regardless of your gearing, the goal is full Glacia armor in 5 pieces from the Scrolls of Glacia, with the Warlock Ring from Water Chests being a neat bonus and the Warlock Amulet not being very useful. The Glacia Godsword is not worth grinding for, nor is the Cloudburst Staff. The cloudburst doesn't provide any air runes, which are required for all standard spells, so where you can use a 2h staff, you'll likely want to use your Mystic Air Staff to prevent needing to farm Wizards for air runes, but most of the late-game magic content requires a wand and shield anyway, so it's moot. Maybe you could use it for an ancient magicks setup with Icicle Volley, but Ancient Runes are also a pain to get in bulk. Water Chests are actually the best place to farm ancient runes due to the low drop rate and amount from Magic Chests. Hold on to a Magic Wand (Elite) if you get one and have the bank space to spare, as it's the best one-handed wand you'll have access to for awhile.
Terran
With full Glacia, a Mystic Air Staff, and 45% DR, you can go do the
to get your Infernal Cape and get 10 Infernal Cores to upgrade your Ancient Claw (and Dragon Claw if you don't have one yet) into the Infernal Claw for melee farming.
Terran must be done with mage and has a very tight window for gearing and Damage Reduction. Specifically, your attack speed needs to be faster than 3 seconds and you need 47% DR. In a worst case scenario, Terran will increase your attack interval by 33% for 2 turns then stun you for 1 turn. If he hits you while you're stunned, you'll take an additional 30% damage, drastically increasing your necessary DR to safely idle.
As with the
, there are two ways to do the
: you can use a Mystic Air Staff, FEZ, Skull Cape, and Silver Diamond Ring and use the Surge I Aurora to just barely make your attacks fast enough to avoid being smacked while stunned and slowed, or use a Magic Wand (Elite), Miolite Shield (or Dragonfire Shield if you're lazy), FEZ, Skull Cape, and the Warlock Ring, which is fast enough to not worry about needing surge.
There are also two reasonable choices for spells. Gathering Ancient Runes is a slow process, but it allows for the use of Wind Surge, which will shred through the dungeon at around 250 casts per kill for 3.7 kills per hour with the wand or 350 casts per kill for 2.3 kills per hour with a staff. On the other hand, Death Runes are much easier to gather in bulk from Necromancers so you could instead use Wind Blast at around 350 casts per kill for 2.5 kills per hour with a wand or 800 casts per kill for 1.5 kills/hr with a staff. Using Ancient Magicks is not recommended, even with a Mystic Air Staff, as while you can get 5.5 kills per hour with this gear, it also costs almost 600 ancient runes per kill.
TL;DR - farm ancient/light runes and use wind surge for the staff setup, or farm death/air runes and use wind blast for the wand setup.
The goal is to get an Earth Layered Shield and least 4 pieces of Terran armor, though 5 is, of course, ideal. Make sure you finally put your (G) Rune Boots to rest; they've earned it. Terran isn't necessary to upgrade your melee gear further to Ragnar armor, but you will need a few Terran pieces to reach the DR threshold for
. Again, the Terran Godsword isn't worth grinding out, but it's worth holding on to, if you get one, for
. You'll also want to get both a Guardian Amulet and a Guardian Ring which provide BIS DR in their respective slots (10% for a necklace when below 50% hp, 5% otherwise, and 2% for a ring.)
Ragnar
TBD
ITM
TBD
Ocean stuff
TBD
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