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'''{{PAGENAME}}''' (HCCO) is a community created [[Game Mode]], where a player's Character is only allowed to use combat skills in {{Icon|Hardcore}} mode. This means the player will only be allowed to level {{Skill|Attack}}, {{Skill|Strength}}, {{Skill|Defence}}, {{Skill|Hitpoints}}, {{Skill|Ranged}}, {{Skill|Magic}}, {{Skill|Prayer}}, and [[Slayer]].
'''{{PAGENAME}}''' (HCCO) is a community created [[Game Mode]], where a player's Character is only allowed to use combat skills in {{Icon|Hardcore}} mode. This means the player will only be allowed to level {{Skill|Attack}}, {{Skill|Strength}}, {{Skill|Defence}}, {{Skill|Hitpoints}}, {{Skill|Ranged}}, {{Skill|Magic}}, {{Skill|Prayer}}, and {{Skill|Slayer}}.


The entire gameplay consists of fighting enemies in different areas, and trying to reach end-game bosses, without ever touching any of the non-combat skills, or ever dying.
The entire gameplay consists of fighting enemies in different areas, and trying to reach end-game bosses, without ever touching any of the non-combat skills, or ever dying.


There's also a Google Sheets with highscores and some number crunching made by the community of the various players who play this gamemode. Hit mazunki [they/them]#3247 up on Discord if you wanna join or view it.
There is a guide for this gamemode available at [[HCCO/Guide]]


==Differences==
==Differences==
Since we're playing Hardcore, there are some important parts to keep in mind:
Since we're playing Hardcore, there are some important parts to keep in mind:
* No natural HP regeneration/s.
* No natural HP regeneration/s.
* We start with 12 bank slots, capped to 80 (+ slots gained from [[Bank Slot Token]]s after hitting 80 cap)  
* We start with 20 bank slots, capped to {{HardcoreBankMax}} (+ slots gained from [[Bank Slot Token]]s after hitting {{HardcoreBankMax}} cap). If the {{ExpansionIcon|ItA}} is owned, an additional 88 bank slot can be purchased for {{AP|5000000}} AP each for a total of 196 purchase-able bank slots.
* Harder penalties for being on the weak corner of [[Combat Triangle]].
* Harder penalties for being on the weak corner of [[Combat Triangle]].
* Permanent death
* Permanent death


To regain {{Skill|Hitpoints}}, our choices are very limited:
To regain {{Skill|Hitpoints}} in [[Hardcore]], the choices are restricted to consuming food or using special abilities, since there's no natural regeneration:
 
* Consuming food, gained from monster loot:
* Consuming food, gained from monster loot:
** {{ItemIcon|Potatoes}} from {{MonsterIcon|Plant}}
** {{ItemIcon|Potatoes}} from {{MonsterIcon|Plant}}
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** {{ItemIcon|Trout}} from {{MonsterIcon|Raging Horned Elite}}
** {{ItemIcon|Trout}} from {{MonsterIcon|Raging Horned Elite}}
* {{ItemIcon|Ancient Sword}} with its 25% chance for Life Leech (25% healing from damage dealt)
* {{ItemIcon|Ancient Sword}} with its 25% chance for Life Leech (25% healing from damage dealt)
* {{ItemIcon|Warlock Amulet}} with its 20% healing from damage done from spells.
* {{ItemIcon|Warlock Amulet}} with its 20% healing from damage done from spells
 
* {{ItemIcon|Elder Crown}} with its 10% life steal and 100% bleed life steal
===Known alternatives===
* {{Icon|Auroras|img=Fervor III|type=aurora|Fervor}} with its 5% to 20% life steal
 
* {{Skill|Slayer|Slayer Shop}}
Some people play alternative versions of this gamemode.
** {{Icon|Basic Resupply}}
 
** {{Icon|Standard Resupply}}
One of these variants (called HCCO 12 Bank Slots or HCCO12B) includes limiting themselves to the starting 12 bank slots.
** {{Icon|Generous Resupply}}
 
** {{TotH}} {{Icon|Plentiful Resupply}}
Another style (called Hardcore No Gathering, or HCNG), allows using some non-combat skills, but none of the gathering-skills. This means they can't use {{Skill|Woodcutting}}, {{Skill|Fishing}}, {{Skill|Mining}}, {{Skill|Farming}}, but they can use the resources they gain from killing enemies. As a note, they will not be able to level {{Skill|Firemaking}}, as there is no way to obtain {{ItemIcon|Normal Logs}} without {{Skill|Woodcutting}}.
** {{TotH}} {{Icon|Bountiful Resupply}}
 
==Starting out==
Starting out, it's quite possible you will die many times. Either because of bad luck, or because you forgot to pay attention to the game.
Before you do anything, get a stack of potatoes by punching plants.
 
For the first few levels, personally, I recommend using Block, to level up {{Skill|Defence}}. Leveling defence up improves your natural evasion ratings, effectively reducing all enemies' hit chance. I don't enjoy spam-clicking potatoes 300 times a minute. After reaching defence level 15 or so, I will start leveling my {{Skill|Attack}} stat, for a higher chance to hit enemies.
 
Once I get all melee {{Icon|Combat}} levels up to level 10, at least, I will try to get my first gear.
 
===Gaining gear===
====Baby clothes====
{{ItemIcon|Bronze Battleaxe}} and {{ItemIcon|Bronze Shield}} are both dropped from [[Golbin]] at [[Golbin Village]]. With these, I will go back to grind more potatoes, until I get bored, and believe I am strong enough to get myself some steel gear from the [[Steel Knight]]. A quick note: Any weapon is better than your fists, simply because of the 4s cooldown between attacks with your fists.
 
Alternatively, you might get a {{ItemIcon|Bronze Dagger}} and potentially an {{ItemIcon|Iron Dagger}} from the {{MonsterIcon|Goo Monster}}, if you're feeling brave.
 
You will be able to push yourself through the first three knights ({{MonsterIcon|Steel Knight}}, {{MonsterIcon|Black Knight}}, {{MonsterIcon|Mithril Knight}}) quite decently, getting Boots, Platelegs, Platebodies, Helmets, Shields, Swords, and Scimitars. Furthermore, the Black Knight will drop you a {{ItemIcon|Black Dagger}}, but you can ignore the black knight entirely.
 
If you're having a hard time getting the first shirt and leggings, you can take a pitstop by the {{MonsterIcon|Zombie Hand}} for the {{ItemIcon|Iron Platelegs}}, and just go for the {{MonsterIcon|Zombie}} for {{ItemIcon|Steel Platebody}}. It's much easier to get the shirt from the zombie than from the knight.
 
====Some better gear====
After getting a full set of {{ItemIcon|Mithril Helmet}}, {{ItemIcon|Mithril Platebody}}, {{ItemIcon|Mithril Platelegs}}, {{ItemIcon|Mithril Boots}}, and possibly a {{ItemIcon|Mithril Sword}} or {{ItemIcon|Mithril Scimitar}}... I will do what I call a Pro Gamer Move, and kill a few {{MonsterIcon|Purple Goo Monster|Purple Goo Monsters}} until they give me an {{ItemIcon|Adamant Dagger}}. The benefit of wielding a dagger over a sword is that you will save yourself 0.2s between attacks, allowing you to hoard up even MORE POTATOES.
 
Also, after getting some Mithril gear, you should try killing an {{MonsterIcon|Ice Monster}} to get an {{ItemIcon|Ice Sword}}, since the drop rate is really high, and it's pretty much on par with the {{ItemIcon|Rune Sword}}.
 
At this point you should already have figured out you would benefit from the extra +7% Combat XP from the {{ItemIcon|Gold Emerald Ring}}, and the {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Strength}} dropped at {{MonsterIcon|Mummy}}. The {{ItemIcon|Gold Topaz Ring}} is kinda meh, for now, since we won't have access to {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} anyway.
 
After having some decent clothes, a necklace, ring, and weapon... it's time for our next step.
 
===Gaining gold===
 
Okay, so you're sick of being a manual autoclicker, pressing Loot All, equipping potatoes, and munching potatoes for 1001 nights in a row. Okay, so power up an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arduino Arduino], connect a real life potato to fuel it with energy, and turn it into a potato powered autoclicker instead. Do this until you have enough potatoes to get a million gold, and can buy [[Auto Eat|Auto Eat I]] for 1 000 000 [[Gold Coins]].
 
Just kidding.
 
Kill {{MonsterIcon|Cow|Cows}}, loot {{ItemIcon|Leather}}, and get free {{ItemIcon|Bones}} for {{Skill|Prayer}}, experience, and some pennies. Upgrading {{ItemIcon|Leather}} to {{ItemIcon|Green Dragonhide}} increases the profit for each one. Do this until you can afford auto-eat. In my experience, this is the most efficient way to get gold at this stage.
 
While the efficiency of Auto Eat I might not be the best, you will save yourself a lot manual labour, and can finally get yourself a shower, by consuming your hard-earned potatoes.
 
====AE2 and AE3====
 
While this can (and probably should) wait until later, it's nice to know that in order to farm for [[Auto Eat|Auto Eat 2]] and [[Auto Eat|Auto Eat III]], one should do so at {{MonsterIcon|Master Farmer}}, mainly by collecting {{ItemIcon|Magic Tree Seeds}}. The exact order of priority is the following, which can vary on your bank capacity:
 
{{ItemIcon|Magic Tree Seeds}} > {{ItemIcon|Yew Tree Seeds}} > {{ItemIcon|Maple Tree Seeds}} > {{ItemIcon|Willow Tree Seeds}} > {{ItemIcon|Oak Tree Seeds}} > {{ItemIcon|Compost}} > {{ItemIcon|Sweetcorn Seeds}} > {{ItemIcon|Tomato Seeds}} > {{ItemIcon|Strawberry Seeds}}.
 
This takes drop chance and price into account.
 
==Post-AutoEat==
Okay, so you've seen the doctor, and they cured your [https://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/resources/publications/factsheets/arthritis.htm Arthritis], and you can finally return to play Melvor Idle (which wasn't idle until now).
 
Now, you should do some farming up to combat levels {{Icon|Combat}} 50, or so. At this point, you should consider getting the gear from the ({{MonsterIcon|Adamant Knight}}, its gear with {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar}} and {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar}} "quite easily" farmed at {{MonsterIcon|Statue}}. The drop chance for gold is slightly higher at {{MonsterIcon|Purple Goo Monster}}. It's worth noting that it's possible to skip directly to Adamant gear without having a full Mithril set, but do this at your own risk.
 
You should be ready now to get yourself an {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Looting}} from the {{ItemIcon|Spider Chest}} at {{ZoneIcon|Spider Forest}}. While it can vary a bit on your gear, you should have over a grand of {{ItemIcon|Potatoes|Taters}} in your stock, since it will cost you around 500 potatoes per dungeon run.
 
Note: '''Some people claim you can rush the {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Looting}} before getting Auto Eat'''.
 
==Post-Amulet of Looting==


Okay, so you finally got yourself an Amulet of Looting, and now you can sleep comfortable having your own automated {{ItemIcon|Potatoes|Taterfarm}}.  
===Known alternatives and history===
Note: This may not 100% accurate, and should be revised.


The next step is to collect the {{MonsterIcon|Rune Knight}}) armor (with its upgrades), and {{ItemIcon|Dragon Scimitar}} from the {{MonsterIcon|Seething Horned Elite}}. This should probably last you until you get yourself an {{ItemIcon|Ancient Sword}} and/or {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}. They are both useful for different purposes.
While HCCO is believed to have been created by CoolRox, they never played this game mode themselves. From the recorded history, it is not entirely known who was the first player who took this challenge seriously, although it's possible it was bad_name_2009#6633. Regardless, some honorable mentions are 8992#7954, JHawk55#8345, Nomeru#4261 who all played a non-official hardcore version of this gamemode (where regen applied).


==End-game==
After Hardcore was introduced, the only way to actually start a character in this game mode was by doing one of the following:
* Spam {{ItemIcon|Lemonade}} from the [[Easter Eggs|Easter egg]].
* Fight the {{MonsterIcon|Confused Pirate}}, and flee before they hit you (since they have a slower attack time a player with a {{ItemIcon|Bronze Battleaxe}} would have).
* Infinite {{ItemIcon|Birthday Cake|Birthday Cakes}} can be obtained if one had completed the [[Events|Birthday Event]], but since the birthday event required non-combat skills, this method would not be possible.


'''TBD'''
After seeing that HCCO was feasibly possible, Aurora Aquir#4272 joked about a "hardcore 12 bank slots combat only btw" and Drboomtown#0982 was the first to actually try it along with others such as JHawk55#8345, and created what eventually became a trend amongst the challenger-community. There are a few noteworthy players including IzzyYSN#0220, Hashtronomy#9283, Ynotman#8267, and Username#7620.


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Latest revision as of 13:38, 27 October 2024

Hardcore Combat Only (HCCO) is a community created Game Mode, where a player's Character is only allowed to use combat skills in

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Hardcore

mode. This means the player will only be allowed to level

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Attack

,

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Strength

,

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Defence

,

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Hitpoints

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Ranged

,

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Magic

,

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Prayer

, and

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Slayer

.

The entire gameplay consists of fighting enemies in different areas, and trying to reach end-game bosses, without ever touching any of the non-combat skills, or ever dying.

There is a guide for this gamemode available at HCCO/Guide

Differences

Since we're playing Hardcore, there are some important parts to keep in mind:

  • No natural HP regeneration/s.
  • We start with 20 bank slots, capped to 108 (+ slots gained from Bank Slot Tokens after hitting 108 cap). If the
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     Into the Abyss Expansion is owned, an additional 88 bank slot can be purchased for 5,000,000AP AP each for a total of 196 purchase-able bank slots.
  • Harder penalties for being on the weak corner of Combat Triangle.
  • Permanent death

To regain

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Hitpoints

in Hardcore, the choices are restricted to consuming food or using special abilities, since there's no natural regeneration:

Known alternatives and history

Note: This may not 100% accurate, and should be revised.

While HCCO is believed to have been created by CoolRox, they never played this game mode themselves. From the recorded history, it is not entirely known who was the first player who took this challenge seriously, although it's possible it was bad_name_2009#6633. Regardless, some honorable mentions are 8992#7954, JHawk55#8345, Nomeru#4261 who all played a non-official hardcore version of this gamemode (where regen applied).

After Hardcore was introduced, the only way to actually start a character in this game mode was by doing one of the following:

After seeing that HCCO was feasibly possible, Aurora Aquir#4272 joked about a "hardcore 12 bank slots combat only btw" and Drboomtown#0982 was the first to actually try it along with others such as JHawk55#8345, and created what eventually became a trend amongst the challenger-community. There are a few noteworthy players including IzzyYSN#0220, Hashtronomy#9283, Ynotman#8267, and Username#7620.


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