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=Uses for Bird Nests=
=Uses for Bird Nests=
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=Obtaining Bird Nests=
=Obtaining Bird Nests=
==Bonuses==
==Bonuses==
A full list of applicable bonuses can be found on the [[Woodcutting#Skill_Boosts|Woodcutting page]] as well as the [[Skill Boosts|Skill Boosts page]], the most impactful bonuses are listed below.  
A full list of applicable bonuses can be found on the [[Woodcutting/Boosts|Woodcutting boosts page]] as well as the [[Skill Boosts|Skill Boosts page]], the most impactful bonuses are listed below.  


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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| {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}} || -15% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
| {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}} || -15% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
|-
|-
| {{TotH}}{{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}} || -20% Base Woodcutting Interval (replaces {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}})
| {{TotH}}{{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}} || -20% Base Woodcutting Interval and increases the base quantity of {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest|Bird Nests}} dropped by +1 (replaces {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}})
|-
|-
| {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}} || -15% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
| {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}} || -15% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
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| {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones}} || -6% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
| {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones}} || -6% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
|-
|-
| {{TotH}}{{PetIcon|Harold}} || -3% Global Interval (replaces {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}})
| {{TotH}}{{PetIcon|Harold}} || -3% Global Interval
|-
|-
| {{MasteryReq|Normal Logs|99}} || Decreased cut interval by 0.2s for this Tree (additive with all other bonuses, % based modifiers apply first, followed by flat interval modifiers)<br> +45% chance to receive 2x Logs per action
| {{MasteryReq|Normal Logs|99}} || Decreased cut interval by 0.2s for this Tree (additive with all other bonuses, % based modifiers apply first, followed by flat interval modifiers)<br> +45% chance to receive 2x Logs per action
|-
|-
| {{AoD}} Terran Dungeon Ruins || -0.1s Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses, % based modifiers apply first, followed by flat interval modifiers) <br> -0.2s Woodcutting Interval with {{PetIcon|Carthulu}}
| {{AoD}} {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins}} || -0.1s Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses, % based modifiers apply first, followed by flat interval modifiers) <br> Doubled to -0.2s Woodcutting Interval with {{PetIcon|Carthulu}}
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest Potion IV}} || +30% Chance for [[Bird Nest]]s to drop in Woodcutting  
| {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest Potion IV}} || +30% Chance for [[Bird Nest]]s to drop in Woodcutting  
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|-
| {{Icon|Deedree|type=constellation}} || Up to +8% Chance to Double Items in Woodcutting and up to +5% Bird Nest drop rate
| {{Icon|Deedree|type=constellation}} || Up to +8% Chance to Double Items in Woodcutting and up to +5% Bird Nest drop rate
|}
|}[[Category:Manual Tables]]


==Chopping Logs With Bird Nests Potions==
==Chopping Logs With Bird Nests Potions==
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Note: If any trees of a higher level can be cut at 0.25s, feel free to cut those in addition or instead of the {{ItemIcon|Normal Logs}}. Do not cut any other logs unless you need them for some other goal as doing so can significantly increase the action time, which decreases the amount of Bird Nests gained over time.
Note: If any trees of a higher level can be cut at 0.25s, feel free to cut those in addition or instead of the {{ItemIcon|Normal Logs}}. Do not cut any other logs unless you need them for some other goal as doing so can significantly increase the action time, which decreases the amount of Bird Nests gained over time.
Selling any excess logs and {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest|Bird Nests}} for profit is a decent [[Money Making]] strategy.


A portion of the nests can be opened for {{ItemIcon|Potato Seeds}} to make more potions if required.
A portion of the nests can be opened for {{ItemIcon|Potato Seeds}} to make more potions if required.
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The primary difficulty in maximizing bird nest farming is reducing interval as much as possible. Several methods are listed below
The primary difficulty in maximizing bird nest farming is reducing interval as much as possible. Several methods are listed below


Max Base Game
Max {{Melvor}} Base Game
* 0.52s interval cutting only normal logs with {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}}, {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones|nolink=true}}, and 99 mastery.
* 0.5s interval cutting only Normal Trees with {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}}, {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones}}, and {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 99.


{{TotH}}Throne of the Herald only
{{TotH}} Throne of the Herald only
* 0.25s interval cutting only normal logs with {{ItemIcon|Ent}} + {{ItemIcon|Eagle}} summoning synergy, {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}}, {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}} and {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones|nolink=true}}, and 99 mastery.
* 0.25s interval cutting only Normal Trees with all of the Base Game boosts plus either of the following:
* 0.25s interval cutting only normal logs with Elite pillar of expertise, Harold, {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}}, {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones|nolink=true}}, and 99 mastery.
** (Ideally) {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}} + {{PetIcon|Harold}} + {{AgilityIcon|Elite Pillar of Expertise}}
** {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape|nolink=true}} + {{Synergy|Ent|Eagle}} summoning [[Summoning#Synergies|synergy]]


{{AoD}}Atlas of Discovery only
{{AoD}} Atlas of Discovery only
* 0.25s interval cutting only normal logs with Cartography point of interest {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins}} doubled with Carthulu, full Cartography hex mastery, {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}}, {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones|nolink=true}}, and 99 mastery.
* 0.25s interval cutting only Normal Trees with all of the Base Game boosts plus {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins}} with {{PetIcon|Carthulu}} to double the effects, and full [[Cartography#Mastery_Unlocks|Cartography hex mastery]].


{{TotH}}Throne of the Herald + {{AoD}}Atlas of Discovery with maximum boosts
{{TotH}} Throne of the Herald + {{AoD}} Atlas of Discovery with maximum boosts
* 0.25s interval on ALL trees up to mahogany with {{ItemIcon|Ent}} + {{ItemIcon|Eagle}}, Elite pillar of expertise, Harold, {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}}, {{ItemIcon|Candelabra Lit}}, {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins}} doubled with Carthulu, {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones|nolink=true}}, and 99 mastery.
* 0.25s interval on ALL trees up to (and including) Yew with all of the Base Game boosts plus {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape|nolink=true}} (replaces the normal skillcape), {{Synergy|Ent|Eagle}}, {{AgilityIcon|Elite Pillar of Expertise|nolink=true}}, {{PetIcon|Harold|nolink=true}}, {{ItemIcon|Candelabra Lit}}, {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins|nolink=true}} with {{PetIcon|Carthulu|nolink=true}} to double the effects


The maximum rates assume:
The maximum rates assume:
* The {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}}, and {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}} upgrades have been purchased
* One of the above setups is being used for 0.25s intervals (or 0.5s for Base Game)
* {{PetIcon|Beavis}} is unlocked
* {{PetIcon|Beavis}} is unlocked
* The following items are equipped: {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}}, {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} (in the [[Passive Slot]]), {{ItemIcon|Clue Chasers Insignia}}, {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}}, {{ItemIcon|Lumberjack's Top}}
* {{TotH}} {{UpgradeIcon|Divine Axe}} is purchased (or {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}} for {{Melvor}} and {{AoD}})
* The {{ItemIcon|Ent}} + {{ItemIcon|Bear}} [[Synergy]] is in use
* The following items are equipped: {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}}, {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} (in the [[Passive Slot]]), {{ItemIcon|Clue Chasers Insignia}}, {{ItemIcon|Lumberjack's Top}}
* The 95% Woodcutting Mastery Pool Checkpoint is active, and level 99 {{Icon|Mastery}} in the trees being cut has been reached
* The following cape is equipped: {{TotH}} {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}} (or {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}} for {{Melvor}} and {{AoD}})
* The following {{Skill|Agility}} obstacles are active: {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones|nolink=true}} (3), {{Skill|Agility|Rock Climb|nolink=true}} (5), {{Skill|Agility|Ice Jump|nolink=true}} (9), and {{Skill|Agility|Pillar of Skilling|nolink=true}}
* The {{Synergy|Ent|Bear}} [[Synergy]] is in use
* {{Icon|Deedree|type=constellation}} provides both +15% chance to double items in {{Skill|Woodcutting}}, and +15% chance for {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest|Bird Nests}} to drop
* The 95% Woodcutting Mastery Pool Checkpoint is active
* {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 99 in the tree(s) being cut
* The following {{Skill|Agility}} obstacles are active: {{AgilityIcon|Stepping Stones}} (3), {{AgilityIcon|Rock Climb}} (5), {{AgilityIcon|Ice Jump}} (9), and {{AgilityIcon|Pillar of Skilling}} (P)
* {{ConstellationIcon|Deedree}} provides both +8% chance to double items in {{Skill|Woodcutting}}, and +5% chance for {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest|Bird Nests}} to drop
* {{AoD}} {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins}} and {{AoD}} {{PetIcon|Carthulu}} to double the effects


Per hour, this yields the following:
Per hour, this yields the following:
{| class="wikitable stickyHeader sortable"
{| class="wikitable stickyHeader sortable"
|- class="headerRow-0"
|- class="headerRow-0"
! rowspan="2" | Item !! colspan="2" | No {{Skill|Astrology}} !! colspan="2" | {{Skill|Astrology}}
! rowspan="2" | Item !! colspan="2" | {{Melvor}} [[Full Version|Base Game]] !! colspan="2" | {{AoD}} [[Atlas of Discovery Expansion|Atlas of Discovery]] !! colspan="2" | {{TotH}} [[Throne of the Herald Expansion|Throne of the Herald]]
|- class="headerRow-1"
|- class="headerRow-1"
! Qty !! GP !! Qty !! GP
! Qty !! GP !! Qty !! GP !! Qty !! GP
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest}}
| data-sort-value="8812" | {{formatnum:8812}}
| data-sort-value="3084200" | {{GP|3084200}}
| data-sort-value="17578" | {{formatnum:17578}}
| data-sort-value="6152300" | {{GP|6152300}}
| data-sort-value="29126" | {{formatnum:29126}}
| data-sort-value="10194100" | {{GP|10194100}}
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Normal Logs}}
| {{ItemIcon|Normal Logs}}
| data-sort-value="28223" | {{formatnum:28223}}
| data-sort-value="15119" | {{formatnum:15119}}
| data-sort-value="28223" | {{GP|28223}}
| data-sort-value="15119" | {{GP|15119}}
| data-sort-value="30241" | {{formatnum:30241}}
| data-sort-value="33118" | {{formatnum:33118}}
| data-sort-value="30241" | {{GP|30241}}
| data-sort-value="33118" | {{GP|33118}}
|-
| data-sort-value="30240" | {{formatnum:30240}}
| {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest}}
| data-sort-value="30240" | {{GP|30240}}
| data-sort-value="15203" | {{formatnum:15203}}
| data-sort-value="5321050" | {{GP|5321050}}
| data-sort-value="22335" | {{formatnum:22335}}
| data-sort-value="7817250" | {{GP|7817250}}
|- class="sortbottom"
|- class="sortbottom"
! colspan="2" | Total
! colspan="2" | Total
| {{GP|5349273}}
| {{GP|3099319}}
!  
!
| {{GP|7847491}}
| {{GP|6185418}}
|}
!
| {{GP|10224340}}
|}[[Category:Manual Tables]]
 
The results were determined by using [https://melvoridle.com/save/38gIWZbE this save] followed by the execution of <code>game.testForOffline(100)</code> from the browser console. To run offline progression for 100 hours, the max offline time must be changed using the following: <code>game.MAX_OFFLINE_TIME = 100 * 86400000;</code>.
 
==Thieving from the Lumberjack using Ent and Leprechaun Synergy==
 
The {{Synergy|Ent|Leprechaun}} [[Synergy]] can be used to obtain 2 bird nests (instead of GP) when stealing from the {{Icon|Lumberjack|type=thieving}}.
 
===Requirements===
* {{SkillReq|Summoning|15}}
* {{SkillReq|Thieving|61}}
 
{{ItemIcon|Ent|Ent Mark}} must be Level 3 and {{ItemIcon|Leprechaun|Leprechaun Mark}} Level 2 to use the [[Synergy]]. The success rate for stealing from the Lumberjack must be high to make this a viable strategy. Increasing stealth can be achieved by increasing your {{Skill|Thieving}} level, upgrading the {{ConstellationIcon|Ko}} constellation, or items and potions listed under [[Thieving#Stealth_and_Perception]].
 
===Method===
Create summoning tablets for Ent and Leprechaun and use them with their synergy while stealing from the Lumberjack. This awards 2 bird nests on every successful steal.
 
The maximum rates assume:
* 100% Success chance for {{Icon|Lumberjack|type=thieving}}
* The following is being used reduced interval:
** Lumberjack {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 50
** {{ItemIcon|Gloves of Silence}}
** {{TotH}}{{ItemIcon|Superior Thieving Skillcape}} or {{ItemIcon|Thieving Skillcape}}
** {{TotH}}{{ItemIcon|Grappling Hook}}
** {{ConstellationIcon|Ko|Ko's}} -5% Thieving Interval
** {{TotH}}{{PetIcon|Harold}}
** {{ItA}}{{PetIcon|Zon}}
** {{AgilityIcon|Rooftop Run}}
** {{TotH}}{{AgilityIcon|Elite Pillar of Expertise}}
** {{AoD}}{{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}} which is doubled with {{PetIcon|Carthulu}}
** {{AoD}} Full [[Cartography#Mastery_Unlocks|Cartography hex mastery]]
 
Per hour, this yields the following:
{| class="wikitable"
|- class="headerRow-0"
! !! {{Melvor}} [[Full Version|Base Game]] !! {{AoD}} [[AoD]] !! {{TotH}} [[TotH]] !! {{AoD}} + {{TotH}} !! {{AoD}} + {{TotH}} + {{ItA}}
|- class="headerRow-1"
| {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest}}
| style="text-align:center" | {{formatnum:4343}}
| style="text-align:center" | {{formatnum:5333}}
| style="text-align:center" | {{formatnum:6545}}
| style="text-align:center" | {{formatnum:8999}}
| style="text-align:center" | {{formatnum:10285}}
|-
| Interval
| style="text-align:center" | 1.85s
| style="text-align:center" | 1.35s
| style="text-align:center" | 1.10s
| style="text-align:center" | 0.8s
| style="text-align:center" | 0.7s
|}[[Category:Manual Tables]]


The results were determined by using [https://melvoridle.com/save/38gIWZbE this save] followed by the execution of <code>game.testForOffline(1000)</code> from the browser console. To run offline progression for 1,000 hours, a script which extends the maximum offline time beyond its usual limits or a modification to the <code>getOfflineTimeDiff</code> function must be used.
A 100 hour simulation was done using [https://melvoridle.com/save/ADV6rDjG this save].

Latest revision as of 07:56, 29 October 2024

Uses for Bird Nests

Bird Nests are the best source of many important seeds for different parts of the game:

There is also an Elite Difficulty

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Township

Task that requires 1,000k (one million) Bird Nests.

These statements combined mean that if the player is to complete all of the required township Tasks while starting from nothing, approximately 1,561,000 Bird Nests must be acquired. Bird nests are a particularly volatile resource, under normal circumstances it may seem impossible to collect enough in a reasonable time frame, but this guide will explain the best ways to focus on getting these items to make the grind as painless as possible.

Obtaining Bird Nests

Bonuses

A full list of applicable bonuses can be found on the Woodcutting boosts page as well as the Skill Boosts page, the most impactful bonuses are listed below.

Name Effect
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Dragon Axe
-40% Cut time
Divine Axe +9% Chance to Double Items in Woodcutting, +6% for Bird Nests to drop in Woodcutting
Woodcutting Skillcape -15% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
Superior Woodcutting Skillcape -20% Base Woodcutting Interval and increases the base quantity of Bird Nests dropped by +1 (replaces Woodcutting Skillcape)
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Master of Nature
-15% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
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Stepping Stones
-6% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
Harold -3% Global Interval
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Level 99
Decreased cut interval by 0.2s for this Tree (additive with all other bonuses, % based modifiers apply first, followed by flat interval modifiers)
+45% chance to receive 2x Logs per action
Terran Dungeon Ruins -0.1s Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses, % based modifiers apply first, followed by flat interval modifiers)
Doubled to -0.2s Woodcutting Interval with Carthulu
Bird Nest Potion IV +30% Chance for Bird Nests to drop in Woodcutting
Clue Chasers Insignia 10% Increased chance to receive Bird Nests from Woodcutting
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Multi-Tree
Cut 2 different trees in Woodcutting simultaneously
Lumberjack's Top +2% Bird Nest drop rate
95% Woodcutting Mastery Pool Checkpoint Increases the base quantity of Bird Nests dropped by +1
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Ent
+10% Chance to gain +1 additional resource (this does not directly affect ) in Woodcutting. Cannot be doubled
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Ent
+
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Bear
Synergy
Increases the base quantity of Bird Nests dropped by +1
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Deedree
Up to +8% Chance to Double Items in Woodcutting and up to +5% Bird Nest drop rate

Chopping Logs With Bird Nests Potions

Requirements

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    Level 10
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    Level 1

Please note: Although the minimum requirements are low, using Bird Nest Potion IV and minimum action time are advised or else the acquisition rate drops dramatically.

Method

Cut Normal Logs to obtain Bird Nests, as these have the fastest default cut time. The goal is to perform actions at the minimum interval allowed by the game, 0.25 seconds, or 4 actions per second.

Note: If any trees of a higher level can be cut at 0.25s, feel free to cut those in addition or instead of the Normal Logs. Do not cut any other logs unless you need them for some other goal as doing so can significantly increase the action time, which decreases the amount of Bird Nests gained over time.

A portion of the nests can be opened for Potato Seeds to make more potions if required.

How to Achieve Min Interval (0.25s)

The primary difficulty in maximizing bird nest farming is reducing interval as much as possible. Several methods are listed below

Max Melvor Logo.svg Base Game

Throne of the Herald only

Atlas of Discovery only

Throne of the Herald + Atlas of Discovery with maximum boosts

  • 0.25s interval on ALL trees up to (and including) Yew with all of the Base Game boosts plus Superior Woodcutting Skillcape (replaces the normal skillcape),
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    Ent
    SynergyIcon.png Eagle
    ,
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    Elite Pillar of Expertise
    , Harold, Candelabra Lit, Terran Dungeon Ruins with Carthulu to double the effects

The maximum rates assume:

Per hour, this yields the following:

The results were determined by using this save followed by the execution of game.testForOffline(100) from the browser console. To run offline progression for 100 hours, the max offline time must be changed using the following: game.MAX_OFFLINE_TIME = 100 * 86400000;.

Thieving from the Lumberjack using Ent and Leprechaun Synergy

The

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Ent
SynergyIcon.png
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Leprechaun

Synergy can be used to obtain 2 bird nests (instead of GP) when stealing from the

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Lumberjack

.

Requirements

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    Level 15
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    Level 61
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Ent Mark

must be Level 3 and

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Leprechaun Mark

Level 2 to use the Synergy. The success rate for stealing from the Lumberjack must be high to make this a viable strategy. Increasing stealth can be achieved by increasing your

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Thieving

level, upgrading the

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Ko

constellation, or items and potions listed under Thieving#Stealth_and_Perception.

Method

Create summoning tablets for Ent and Leprechaun and use them with their synergy while stealing from the Lumberjack. This awards 2 bird nests on every successful steal.

The maximum rates assume:

Per hour, this yields the following:

Melvor Logo.svg Base Game AoD TotH + + +
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Bird Nest 4,343 5,333 6,545 8,999 10,285
Interval 1.85s 1.35s 1.10s 0.8s 0.7s

A 100 hour simulation was done using this save.