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Note: If any trees of a higher level can be cut at 0.25s, feel free to cut those in addition or instead of the {{ItemIcon|Normal Logs}}. Do not cut any other logs unless you need them for some other goal as doing so can significantly increase the action time, which decreases the amount of Bird Nests gained over time.
Note: If any trees of a higher level can be cut at 0.25s, feel free to cut those in addition or instead of the {{ItemIcon|Normal Logs}}. Do not cut any other logs unless you need them for some other goal as doing so can significantly increase the action time, which decreases the amount of Bird Nests gained over time.
Selling any excess logs and {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest|Bird Nests}} for profit is a decent [[Money Making]] strategy.


A portion of the nests can be opened for {{ItemIcon|Potato Seeds}} to make more potions if required.
A portion of the nests can be opened for {{ItemIcon|Potato Seeds}} to make more potions if required.
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* 0.5s interval cutting only Normal Trees with {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}}, {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones}}, and {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 99.
* 0.5s interval cutting only Normal Trees with {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature}}, {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones}}, and {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 99.


{{TotH}}Throne of the Herald only
{{TotH}} Throne of the Herald only
* 0.25s interval cutting only Normal Trees with {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe|nolink=true}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature|nolink=true}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones|nolink=true}}, {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 99 and either of the following:
* 0.25s interval cutting only Normal Trees with all of the Base Game boosts plus either of the following:
** (Ideally) {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}} + {{PetIcon|Harold}} + {{AgilityIcon|Elite Pillar of Expertise}}
** {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape|nolink=true}} + {{Synergy|Ent|Eagle}} summoning [[Summoning#Synergies|synergy]]
** {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape|nolink=true}} + {{Synergy|Ent|Eagle}} summoning [[Summoning#Synergies|synergy]]
** {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}} + {{PetIcon|Harold}} + {{AgilityIcon|Elite Pillar of Expertise}}


{{AoD}}Atlas of Discovery only
{{AoD}} Atlas of Discovery only
* 0.25s interval cutting only Normal Trees with {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe|nolink=true}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature|nolink=true}}, {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape|nolink=true}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones|nolink=true}}, {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 99, {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins}} doubled with {{PetIcon|Carthulu}}, and full [[Cartography#Mastery_Unlocks|Cartography hex mastery]].
* 0.25s interval cutting only Normal Trees with all of the Base Game boosts plus {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins}} with {{PetIcon|Carthulu}} to double the effects, and full [[Cartography#Mastery_Unlocks|Cartography hex mastery]].


{{TotH}}Throne of the Herald + {{AoD}}Atlas of Discovery with maximum boosts
{{TotH}} Throne of the Herald + {{AoD}} Atlas of Discovery with maximum boosts
* 0.25s interval on ALL trees up to (and including) Yew with {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe|nolink=true}}, {{UpgradeIcon|Master of Nature|nolink=true}}, {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape|nolink=true}}, {{Skill|Agility|Stepping Stones|nolink=true}}, {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 99, {{Synergy|Ent|Eagle}}, {{AgilityIcon|Elite Pillar of Expertise|nolink=true}}, {{PetIcon|Harold|nolink=true}}, {{ItemIcon|Candelabra Lit}}, {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins|nolink=true}} doubled with {{PetIcon|Carthulu|nolink=true}}
* 0.25s interval on ALL trees up to (and including) Yew with all of the Base Game boosts plus {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape|nolink=true}} (replaces the normal skillcape), {{Synergy|Ent|Eagle}}, {{AgilityIcon|Elite Pillar of Expertise|nolink=true}}, {{PetIcon|Harold|nolink=true}}, {{ItemIcon|Candelabra Lit}}, {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins|nolink=true}} with {{PetIcon|Carthulu|nolink=true}} to double the effects


The maximum rates assume:
The maximum rates assume:
* One of the above setups is being used for 0.25s intervals (or 0.5s for Base Game)
* One of the above setups is being used for 0.25s intervals (or 0.5s for Base Game)
* {{PetIcon|Beavis}} is unlocked
* {{PetIcon|Beavis}} is unlocked
* {{TotH}}{{UpgradeIcon|Augite Axe}}, {{TotH}}{{UpgradeIcon|Corundum Axe}} and {{TotH}}{{UpgradeIcon|Divine Axe}} are purchased
* {{TotH}} {{UpgradeIcon|Divine Axe}} is purchased (or {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Axe}} for {{Melvor}} and {{AoD}})
* The following items are equipped: {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}}, {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} (in the [[Passive Slot]]), {{ItemIcon|Clue Chasers Insignia}}, {{TotH}}{{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}} (or {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}} for {{Melvor}} and {{AoD}}), {{ItemIcon|Lumberjack's Top}}
* The following items are equipped: {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}}, {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} (in the [[Passive Slot]]), {{ItemIcon|Clue Chasers Insignia}}, {{ItemIcon|Lumberjack's Top}}
* The following cape is equipped: {{TotH}} {{ItemIcon|Superior Woodcutting Skillcape}} (or {{ItemIcon|Woodcutting Skillcape}} for {{Melvor}} and {{AoD}})
* The {{Synergy|Ent|Bear}} [[Synergy]] is in use
* The {{Synergy|Ent|Bear}} [[Synergy]] is in use
* The 95% Woodcutting Mastery Pool Checkpoint is active, and {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 99 in the trees being cut has been reached
* The 95% Woodcutting Mastery Pool Checkpoint is active
* {{Icon|Mastery|notext=true}} Level 99 in the tree(s) being cut
* The following {{Skill|Agility}} obstacles are active: {{AgilityIcon|Stepping Stones}} (3), {{AgilityIcon|Rock Climb}} (5), {{AgilityIcon|Ice Jump}} (9), and {{AgilityIcon|Pillar of Skilling}} (P)
* The following {{Skill|Agility}} obstacles are active: {{AgilityIcon|Stepping Stones}} (3), {{AgilityIcon|Rock Climb}} (5), {{AgilityIcon|Ice Jump}} (9), and {{AgilityIcon|Pillar of Skilling}} (P)
* {{ConstellationIcon|Deedree}} provides both +8% chance to double items in {{Skill|Woodcutting}}, and +5% chance for {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest|Bird Nests}} to drop
* {{ConstellationIcon|Deedree}} provides both +8% chance to double items in {{Skill|Woodcutting}}, and +5% chance for {{ItemIcon|Bird Nest|Bird Nests}} to drop
* {{AoD}}{{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins}} doubled with {{AoD}}{{PetIcon|Carthulu}}
* {{AoD}} {{POIIcon|Terran Dungeon Ruins}} and {{AoD}} {{PetIcon|Carthulu}} to double the effects


Per hour, this yields the following:
Per hour, this yields the following:
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|}[[Category:Manual Tables]]
|}[[Category:Manual Tables]]


The results were determined by using [https://melvoridle.com/save/38gIWZbE this save] followed by the execution of <code>game.testForOffline(1000)</code> from the browser console. To run offline progression for 1,000 hours, a script which extends the maximum offline time beyond its usual limits or a modification to the <code>getOfflineTimeDiff</code> function must be used.
The results were determined by using [https://melvoridle.com/save/38gIWZbE this save] followed by the execution of <code>game.testForOffline(100)</code> from the browser console. To run offline progression for 100 hours, the max offline time must be changed using the following: <code>game.MAX_OFFLINE_TIME = 100 * 86400000;</code>.


==Thieving from the Lumberjack using Ent and Octopus Synergy==
==Thieving from the Lumberjack using Ent and Leprechaun Synergy==


The {{Synergy|Ent|Octopus}} [[Synergy]] can be used to obtain 2 bird nests (instead of GP) when stealing from the {{Icon|Lumberjack|type=thieving}}.  
The {{Synergy|Ent|Leprechaun}} [[Synergy]] can be used to obtain 2 bird nests (instead of GP) when stealing from the {{Icon|Lumberjack|type=thieving}}.  


===Requirements===
===Requirements===
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* {{SkillReq|Thieving|61}}
* {{SkillReq|Thieving|61}}


{{ItemIcon|Ent|Ent Mark}} and {{ItemIcon|Octopus|Octopus Mark}} must be Level 2 to use the [[Synergy]]. The success rate for stealing from the Lumberjack must be high to make this a viable strategy. Increasing stealth can be achieved by increasing your {{Skill|Thieving}} level, upgrading the {{ConstellationIcon|Ko}} constellation, or items and potions listed under [[Thieving#Stealth_and_Perception]].
{{ItemIcon|Ent|Ent Mark}} must be Level 3 and {{ItemIcon|Leprechaun|Leprechaun Mark}} Level 2 to use the [[Synergy]]. The success rate for stealing from the Lumberjack must be high to make this a viable strategy. Increasing stealth can be achieved by increasing your {{Skill|Thieving}} level, upgrading the {{ConstellationIcon|Ko}} constellation, or items and potions listed under [[Thieving#Stealth_and_Perception]].


===Method===
===Method===
Create summoning tablets for Ent and Octopus and use them with their synergy while stealing from the Lumberjack. This awards 2 bird nests on every successful steal.
Create summoning tablets for Ent and Leprechaun and use them with their synergy while stealing from the Lumberjack. This awards 2 bird nests on every successful steal.


The maximum rates assume:
The maximum rates assume:

Latest revision as of 07:56, 29 October 2024

Uses for Bird Nests

Bird Nests are the best source of many important seeds for different parts of the game:

There is also an Elite Difficulty

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Township

Task that requires 1,000k (one million) Bird Nests.

These statements combined mean that if the player is to complete all of the required township Tasks while starting from nothing, approximately 1,561,000 Bird Nests must be acquired. Bird nests are a particularly volatile resource, under normal circumstances it may seem impossible to collect enough in a reasonable time frame, but this guide will explain the best ways to focus on getting these items to make the grind as painless as possible.

Obtaining Bird Nests

Bonuses

A full list of applicable bonuses can be found on the Woodcutting boosts page as well as the Skill Boosts page, the most impactful bonuses are listed below.

Name Effect
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Dragon Axe
-40% Cut time
TotH.svg Divine Axe +9% Chance to Double Items in Woodcutting, +6% for Bird Nests to drop in Woodcutting
Woodcutting Skillcape -15% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
TotH.svg Superior Woodcutting Skillcape -20% Base Woodcutting Interval and increases the base quantity of Bird Nests dropped by +1 (replaces Woodcutting Skillcape)
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Master of Nature
-15% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
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Stepping Stones
-6% Base Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses)
TotH.svg Harold -3% Global Interval
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Level 99
Decreased cut interval by 0.2s for this Tree (additive with all other bonuses, % based modifiers apply first, followed by flat interval modifiers)
+45% chance to receive 2x Logs per action
AoD.png Terran Dungeon Ruins -0.1s Woodcutting Interval (additive with all other bonuses, % based modifiers apply first, followed by flat interval modifiers)
Doubled to -0.2s Woodcutting Interval with Carthulu
Bird Nest Potion IV +30% Chance for Bird Nests to drop in Woodcutting
Clue Chasers Insignia 10% Increased chance to receive Bird Nests from Woodcutting
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Multi-Tree
Cut 2 different trees in Woodcutting simultaneously
Lumberjack's Top +2% Bird Nest drop rate
95% Woodcutting Mastery Pool Checkpoint Increases the base quantity of Bird Nests dropped by +1
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Ent
+10% Chance to gain +1 additional resource (this does not directly affect ) in Woodcutting. Cannot be doubled
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Ent
+
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Bear
Synergy
Increases the base quantity of Bird Nests dropped by +1
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Deedree
Up to +8% Chance to Double Items in Woodcutting and up to +5% Bird Nest drop rate

Chopping Logs With Bird Nests Potions

Requirements

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    Level 10
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    Level 1

Please note: Although the minimum requirements are low, using Bird Nest Potion IV and minimum action time are advised or else the acquisition rate drops dramatically.

Method

Cut Normal Logs to obtain Bird Nests, as these have the fastest default cut time. The goal is to perform actions at the minimum interval allowed by the game, 0.25 seconds, or 4 actions per second.

Note: If any trees of a higher level can be cut at 0.25s, feel free to cut those in addition or instead of the Normal Logs. Do not cut any other logs unless you need them for some other goal as doing so can significantly increase the action time, which decreases the amount of Bird Nests gained over time.

A portion of the nests can be opened for Potato Seeds to make more potions if required.

How to Achieve Min Interval (0.25s)

The primary difficulty in maximizing bird nest farming is reducing interval as much as possible. Several methods are listed below

Max Melvor Logo.svg Base Game

TotH.svg Throne of the Herald only

AoD.png Atlas of Discovery only

TotH.svg Throne of the Herald + AoD.png Atlas of Discovery with maximum boosts

  • 0.25s interval on ALL trees up to (and including) Yew with all of the Base Game boosts plus Superior Woodcutting Skillcape (replaces the normal skillcape),
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    Ent
    SynergyIcon.png Eagle
    ,
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    Elite Pillar of Expertise
    , Harold, Candelabra Lit, Terran Dungeon Ruins with Carthulu to double the effects

The maximum rates assume:

Per hour, this yields the following:

The results were determined by using this save followed by the execution of game.testForOffline(100) from the browser console. To run offline progression for 100 hours, the max offline time must be changed using the following: game.MAX_OFFLINE_TIME = 100 * 86400000;.

Thieving from the Lumberjack using Ent and Leprechaun Synergy

The

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Ent
SynergyIcon.png
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Leprechaun

Synergy can be used to obtain 2 bird nests (instead of GP) when stealing from the

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Lumberjack

.

Requirements

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    Level 15
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    Level 61
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Ent Mark

must be Level 3 and

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Leprechaun Mark

Level 2 to use the Synergy. The success rate for stealing from the Lumberjack must be high to make this a viable strategy. Increasing stealth can be achieved by increasing your

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Thieving

level, upgrading the

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Ko

constellation, or items and potions listed under Thieving#Stealth_and_Perception.

Method

Create summoning tablets for Ent and Leprechaun and use them with their synergy while stealing from the Lumberjack. This awards 2 bird nests on every successful steal.

The maximum rates assume:

Per hour, this yields the following:

Melvor Logo.svg Base Game AoD.png AoD TotH.svg TotH AoD.png + TotH.svg AoD.png + TotH.svg +
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Bird Nest 4,343 5,333 6,545 8,999 10,285
Interval 1.85s 1.35s 1.10s 0.8s 0.7s

A 100 hour simulation was done using this save.