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Now theres two options:
Now theres two options:
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}}, you are now efficiently getting {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=2}} every time you mine a {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}}. This is the fastest way to get {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=240000}}.
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}}, you are now efficiently getting {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=2}} every time you mine a {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}}. This is the fastest way to get {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=240000}}.
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} with the {{ItemIcon|Mining Skillcape}} equipped. To reach {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|99}} you will need around {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|qty=330000}}, therefore you may wish to mine this now in preparation for later {{Skill|Runecrafting}} training. When mining {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} with the {{ItemIcon|Mining Skillcape}} you will still get {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} for each Mining action.
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} with the {{ItemIcon|Mining Skillcape}} equipped. To reach {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|99}} you will need around {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|qty=330000}}'''[1]''', therefore you may wish to mine this now in preparation for later {{Skill|Runecrafting}} training. When mining {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} with the {{ItemIcon|Mining Skillcape}} you will still get {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} for each Mining action.


'''Optional''' See [[Smithing/Training#Mining Rune Essence and Glove Use]] for a discussion on efficient glove use and essence mining methods.
'''Optional''' See [[Smithing/Training#Mining Rune Essence and Glove Use]] for a discussion on efficient glove use and essence mining methods.


You get baseline {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|qty=2}} per action, but due to the [[Mastery]] unlocks you sometimes get double that. <br>
You get baseline {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|qty=2}} per action, but due to the [[Mastery]] unlocks you sometimes get double that. <br>
So {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=140000}} will also be obtained on the way to getting {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|qty=330000}}. <br>
So {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=140000}} will also be obtained on the way to getting {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|qty=330000}}.'''[1]''' <br>
Afterwards, consder mining some {{ItemIcon|Gold Ore|Gold}} and {{ItemIcon|Silver Ore|Silver Ores}}, which can be turned into bars and used to upgrade various melee armour to their (s) and (g) variants:
Afterwards, consder mining some {{ItemIcon|Gold Ore|Gold}} and {{ItemIcon|Silver Ore|Silver Ores}}, which can be turned into bars and used to upgrade various melee armour to their (s) and (g) variants:
* Full Mithril (g) is {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar|qty=700}} and {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar|qty=1000}}.
* Full Mithril (g) is {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar|qty=700}} and {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar|qty=1000}}.
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If you find any errors, or if you know of another maybe more efficient way feel free to hit me up on Discord: Martinmagi#7989
If you find any errors, or if you know of another maybe more efficient way feel free to hit me up on Discord: Martinmagi#7989
'''[1]''' This number was calculated before the Mastery rework (patch V0.17). Approximately half as much {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} (160,000) is required for {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|99}}. A new number is yet to be calculated, but it could be as low as 120-140k.


== Mining Rune Essence and Glove Use ==
== Mining Rune Essence and Glove Use ==

Revision as of 00:15, 2 February 2021

This page was last updated for (v0.18.2).


Boosts

There are several items you can use to increase the rate at which you train the

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Smithing

skill:

Name Description
Ancient Ring of Skills The Ancient Ring of Skills is a rare drop that can be found while
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Fishing
. It increases the XP gained from non-combat skills by 8%.
Pyro The Firemaking pet provides a +1% boost to XP gained in any skill.
Firemaking Skillcape The Firemaking Skillcape provides a +5% boost to XP gained in any skill when worn.
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Art of Control
After beating the
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Fire God Dungeon
players can purchase Art of Control, which decreases the time per action for Cooking, Firemaking and Smithing by 20%
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Puff, the Baby Dragon
Once acquired, the Smithing pet gives +10% chance to preserve resources when Smithing.
Smithing Skillcape The Smithing Skillcape Halve Coal Ore Requirements when smelting bars using the smithing skill. (Does not affect
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Superheat
Alt Magic spells).
Seeing Gold Potion This Smithing Potion can be made at
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Level 36
and gives 10% chance for Silver Ore to also produce a Gold Bar when smithed
Smithing Gloves +50% Smithing XP when worn, until depleted.

Acquiring Materials

There are two types of

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Smithing

. Either you smith bars, or you use the bars to smith gear. You mainly get ores from

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Mining

, but some monsters also drop ores or bars. Most of the gear created with Smithing can also be obtained from monster drops, mainly knights located within

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Castle of Kings

. Dragon armor however is harder to obtain, and you can't get the Dragon Helmet or Dragon Boots from anywhere other than Smithing.

Efficient Training

Summary

  1. Mine 60,000 Mithril Ore.
  2. Get
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    Level 99
    .
  3. Mine Rune Essence or Coal Ore with Mining Skillcape to get 240,000 Coal Ore.
  4. Make sure to always have Smithing Gloves on at all times, if you are rich you can buy 211 gloves already.
  5. Smith all your Mithril into Mithril Bars. [NOTE: If you have limited funds, do not wear Smithing Gloves for this step]
  6. Smith all the Bars into Mithril Platebodies while wearing Smithing Gloves.
  7. Sell the Platebodies for a total loss of 10.7GPm.

After following these steps, you should have enough XP to reach

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Level 99

.

Detailed Guide

The most efficient training method depends on a lot of things.

What is your goal? Is it to get to 99 as fast as possible, or is it to prepare for the future? How are you going to get your materials? What

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Mining

level are you?

It is far faster to get your materials from mining rather killing monsters.

This guide assumes that you are smelting your bars using the Smithing skill rather than using the

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Superheat IV
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Alt. Magic

spell, which means your primary resource bottleneck will be Coal Ore

Mining Strategy

If you haven't started mining yet, this is the route I would advise you take:

Start mining and just mine the highest ore until you reach Mithril. If you are actively playing, switching from a depleted ore to the 2nd highest ore you can mine while your highest ore is depleted will speed up your Mining XP, although this requires substantially more focus.

Once you unlock Mithril, you'll want to make sure you mine at least 60,000 Mithril Ore. After you do, push the rest of the way to level

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Level 99

.

Once you reach level 99 Mining, buy the Mining Skillcape. While wearing the Mining Skillcape, an extra Coal Ore will be received for each mining action in addition to the normal ore.

For each Mithril Bar, you need 1 Mithril Ore and 4 Coal Ore.

So for 60,000 Mithril Bars, you need 60,000 Mithril Ore and 240,000 Coal Ore.

Now theres two options:

  1. Mine Coal Ore, you are now efficiently getting 2 Coal Ore every time you mine a Coal Ore. This is the fastest way to get 240,000 Coal Ore.
  2. Mine Rune Essence with the Mining Skillcape equipped. To reach
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    Level 99
    you will need around 330,000 Rune Essence[1], therefore you may wish to mine this now in preparation for later
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    Runecrafting
    training. When mining Rune Essence with the Mining Skillcape you will still get Coal Ore for each Mining action.

Optional See Smithing/Training#Mining Rune Essence and Glove Use for a discussion on efficient glove use and essence mining methods.

You get baseline 2 Rune Essence per action, but due to the Mastery unlocks you sometimes get double that.
So 140,000 Coal Ore will also be obtained on the way to getting 330,000 Rune Essence.[1]
Afterwards, consder mining some Gold and Silver Ores, which can be turned into bars and used to upgrade various melee armour to their (s) and (g) variants:

Using Seeing Gold Potions will give Silver Ore a chance to also produce a Gold Bar when smelted.
Or you can just mine Coal Ore until you reach the goal.

Now we get back to the smithing part.

If you did the math, 60,000 Mithril Bar only gives 35 XP per bar, and when smithing Mithril gear you only get 50 XP per bar used? That only adds up to just above 5 million XP, and you need 13,034,431 XP to reach

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Level 99

.

With Smithing Gloves the XP for each bar and gear is increased by 50%.
This 50% increase brings us to 7.5 million XP, which is still quite short of the required 13 million.
That's why we take a look at the Mastery unlocks.

Smithing has the most items of any skill, this also means the Mastery pool is very big compared to every other skill.
This means that while it is harder to reach each mastery pool checkpoint, it is however easier to reach individual item checkpoints.

One Mastery Token gives mastery pool XP equal to 0.1% of the Mastery pool capacity.

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Thieving

has the smallest pool at only 4 million XP compared to

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Smithing

at 57.5 million. This means 1 Mastery Token (Smithing) gives more than 14 times as much Mastery XP than a single Mastery Token (Thieving). In addition, the chance to get Mastery Tokens increases when more milestones are unlocked. This combined with Smithing having the most items to unlock, results in the skill having the highest and fastest growing chance of obtaining a Mastery Token per action.

So getting to 99 Mastery in Mithril Bars will take you very little time.

Now what does this do?
Mastery gives you a base chance to preserve resources, meaning when smelting a Mithril Bar there is a chance that no Mithril Ore or Coal Ore will be consumed, essentially giving you a free bar. An additional benefit of Smithing mastery is that there is also a chance to double items gained, giving you 2 bars instead of 1.
So without considering the 25% and 50% Mastery pool unlocks, when you smelt 60,000 Mithril Bars the chance to preserve resources and double items will instead result in the player obtaining approximately 105,300 Mithril Bars.

To achieve the fastest possible XP rate when using the bars the Mithril Platebody should be crafted, as every item takes the same to craft, and gives the same XP per bar. Therefore, crafting an item that requires 5 Mithril Bars is 5 times faster than if you were to make Mithril Daggers instead. In addition, since only a single item and bar type is being created the Mastery level of these items will quickly reach 99, allowing us to benefit from the perks of resource preservation and item doubling.

As when creating 105,300 Mithril Bars the chance to preserve resources and double items still applies with creating Mithril Platebodies, meaning the player can expect to receive an additional 6,318 platebodies for a total of 36,960 Mithril Platebodies to sell.

While smelting bars and creating platbodies, Smithing Gloves should be worn. Each glove costs 100,000GP and gives 500 charges, so each charge costs 200GP. Around 105,378 Smithing actions will take place, meaning you spend a total of 21,075,600GP on gloves. This cost is partially offset by the sale value of the created Mithril Platebodies, at around 10,348,884GP this means you get about half of the money back.

If you followed this guide, you are now the proud owner of 99

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Mining

, 99

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Runecrafting

banked, and 99

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Smithing

, at a cost of around 10.7GP million.

If you find any errors, or if you know of another maybe more efficient way feel free to hit me up on Discord: Martinmagi#7989

[1] This number was calculated before the Mastery rework (patch V0.17). Approximately half as much Rune Essence (160,000) is required for

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Level 99

. A new number is yet to be calculated, but it could be as low as 120-140k.

Mining Rune Essence and Glove Use

This section and table was developed by soup#8068.
Assumptions:

  • The player is wearing the mining cape and has no double drops, no gem drops outside gem gloves.
  • 1.3 sec/action.
  • Avg. profit of 131 gp/charge of gem gloves.
Mining Resource No gloves Mining Gloves (MG) MG Essence, Coal MG Essence, Gem Gloves Coal
Essence (Mining Actions) 165,000 82,500 82,500 82,500
Coal (Mining Actions) 37,500 52,500 78,750 78,750
Action Total 202,500 135,000 161,250 161,250
Action Delta 0 67,500 41,250 41,250
Time Total (hrs) 73.125 47.750 56.88 56.88
Time Delta (hrs) 0 24.375 14.890 14.890
Cost Total 0 20,250,000 12,375,000 2,058,750
Approx Cost (Gp/hr) 0 415,000 212,000 35,000

The player should use mining gloves to mine essence, and then gem gloves for coal. A total investment of ~ 2 MGp saves ~15 hrs of time.
Furthermore, if the player has an excess of money, or access to money making methods to make in excess of 415k/hr (99 Fishing, 99 Woodcutting), then using mining gloves for all mining actions is a more efficient use of time.