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TL;DR - get the claw after you get {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and before the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}}. | TL;DR - get the claw after you get the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and before the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}}. | ||
{{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain. | {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain. |
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Introduction
TL;DR - get the claw after you get the Sunset Rapier and before the
.
Ancient Claw is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.
The Ancient Claw is assembled from the fragments that drop only from the Pegasus. You need to kill 3333 Pegasi on average to get enough fragments.
The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the
because this dungeon is farmed with a Melee build and is vital for idling the
.
To answer these questions, we will consider the following builds:
- starter runecrafting magic,
- after-Error creating thumbnail: File missingShip melee,
- after-Error creating thumbnail: File missingVolcanic magic,
- after-Error creating thumbnail: File missingGlacia magic.
These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming the Pegasus. The ranged builds were not considered because the Pegasus is
and has the highest evasion against
in addition to the Combat Triangle.
In the considered situations, no prayers, potions, or other buffs are enabled unless specified.
The skill levels are given so that you can replicate the simulations in the Combat Simulator.
The
is used.
The Whale (Perfect) is used as a food of choice.
The ring slot is always occupied with Magical Ring.
Starter magic
Item | DR |
---|---|
Fire Expert Wizard Hat | 5% |
Fire Expert Wizard Robes | 5% |
Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms | 5% |
Fire Expert Wizard Boots | 5% |
Miolite Shield | 2% |
Enchanted Cape | 0% |
Amulet of Magic | 0% |
Paladin Gloves | 4% |
Magic Wand (Powerful) | 0% |
Total | 26% |
is used with Combination Runes. All skills are at level 75.
The simulation results are:
- 1358 Ancient runes spent,
- 151.9 whales per hour,
- 23 Pegasi per hour.
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 151.9 * 18.875 = 2867 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = (N * 7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + N / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ N = 1358 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = 1358 * 12.675 / 16 = 1076 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_r = 1358 * 9.75 / 8 = 1655 }[/math]
The adjusted time [math]\displaystyle{ A_{start} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 2867 + 1076 + 1655) / 23 = 400 }[/math]
In other words, the time that is required to get all resources for killing one Pegasus and to actually kill it is 400 seconds.
The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is [math]\displaystyle{ 400 * 3333 / 3600 = 371 \text{ hours}. }[/math]
After-Ship melee
Item | DR |
---|---|
(G) Dragon Helmet | 6% |
(G) Dragon Platebody | 6% |
(G) Dragon Platelegs | 6% |
(G) Dragon Boots | 6% |
(G) Dragon Shield | 6% |
Amulet of Calculated Promotion | 0% |
Paladin Gloves | 4% |
Sunset Rapier | 0% |
Total | 34% |
All skills are at level 75.
The simulation results are:
- 33.2 whales per hour,
- 26.57 Pegasi per hour.
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 33.2 * 18.875 = 626.7 }[/math]
The adjusted time [math]\displaystyle{ A_{ship} = (3600 + 626.7) / 26.57 = 159.08 }[/math]
The overall time is [math]\displaystyle{ 159.08 * 3333 / 3600 = 148 \text{ hours}. }[/math]
After-Volcanic magic
Item | DR |
---|---|
Ancient Wizard Hat | 5% |
Ancient Wizard Robes | 5% |
Ancient Wizard Bottoms | 5% |
Ancient Wizard Boots | 5% |
Miolite Shield | 2% |
Enchanted Cape | 0% |
Elite Amulet of Magic | 2% |
Elementalist Gloves | 0% |
Magic Wand (Powerful) | 0% |
Total | 24% |
All skills are at level 75 except
. With the following setup, you should have exactly 20k accuracy on
, they cannot miss now.
The simulation results with Eli are:
- 4905 Ancient runes spent,
- 107.9 whales per hour,
- 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 107.9 * 18.875 = 2037 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = (N * 20 + N) / 16 * 1.3 = N * 21 / 16 * 1.3 = N * 27.3 / 16 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_r = N * 21 * 2 / 16 = N * 21 / 8 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ N = 4905 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = 4905 * 27.3 / 16 = 8370 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_r = 4905 * 21 / 8 = 12876 }[/math]
The adjusted time [math]\displaystyle{ A_{volcano} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 2037 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 137 }[/math]
The overall time is [math]\displaystyle{ 137 * 3333 / 3600 = 127 \text{ hours}. }[/math]
If you swap Miolite Shield to Book of Eli, it will only increase the clear time because your melee defence would plummet, resulting in many more Whales eaten.
The simulation results with Eli are:
- 4905 Ancient runes spent,
- 172.4 whales per hour,
- 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 172.4 * 18.875 = 3254 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = 8370 }[/math]. [math]\displaystyle{ T_r = 12876 }[/math]
The adjusted time [math]\displaystyle{ A_{eli} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 3254 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 143.2 }[/math]
The overall time is [math]\displaystyle{ 143.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 133 \text{ hours}. }[/math]
Overall, you want to put as much DR and Melee defence as possible when maintaining the 20k accuracy. For instance, if you have
with the build above, you can swap Enchanted Cape with Fire Cape and reduce the food consumption even further.
As you see, the rune mining and crafting take the bulk of the time, so you might want to use all preservation and doubling bonuses that you have.
After-Glacia magic
Item | DR |
---|---|
Glacia God Helmet | 8% |
Glacia God Platebody | 8% |
Glacia God Platelegs | 8% |
Glacia God Boots | 8% |
Glacia God Gloves | 8% |
Miolite Shield | 2% |
Infernal Cape | 4% |
Elite Amulet of Magic | 2% |
Magic Wand (Powerful) | 0% |
Total | 48% |
The levels are the same as in the Volcanic build. Due to Ancient Magic not benefiting from gear, the build was aimed to cram as much DR and melee evasion as possible. If you have
, you should be able to swap for Elite Amulet of Defence while still having the required 20k accuracy.
The simulation results are:
- 4905 Ancient runes spent,
- 47.7 whales per hour,
- 196.2 Pegasi per hour.
As the number of runes is the same, [math]\displaystyle{ T_m = 8370. }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ T_r = 12876. }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 47.7 * 18.875 = 900.3 }[/math]
The adjusted time [math]\displaystyle{ A_{glacia} = T_{all} / D_h = (3600 + 900.3 + 8370 + 12876) / 196.2 = 131.2 }[/math]
The overall time is [math]\displaystyle{ 131.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 121.5 \text{ hours}. }[/math]
Analysis
Let's consider the post-Ship and post-Glacia builds.
The difference between them is roughly 27 hours.
However, if we leave the Volcano with Sunset Rapier, its clear time would take longer, making the grind to the full ancient set longer.
The question is then if the difference between the rapier and the claw in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 27 hours.
Essentially, we compare two strategies:
- Rapier > Claw > Volcano,
- Rapier > Volcano > Claw.
We know the length of "Raper > Claw" and "Volcano > Claw" through the post-Ship and post-Glacia builds, but we need the data on "Rapier > Volcano" and "Claw > Volcano".
We take this data from Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice.
Item | Adjusted clear time (s) |
---|---|
Sunset Rapier | 1892 |
Ancient Claw | 1717 |
The goal of clearing the
is to get the ancient set.
As specified on in the Volcanic Cave/Guide, you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armor or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% or results) is 564 clears.
Item | Adjusted clear time (clears/h) | 564 clears (h) | 832 clears (h) | 1350 clears (h) |
---|---|---|---|---|
Sunset Rapier | 1.9027 | 296.4 | 437 | 710 |
Ancient Claw | 2.0967 | 267 | 397 | 644 |
Difference (h) | 29 | 40 | 66 |
As you see from the Difference, even the 50% chance still gives the 4-hour advantage if you get the Claw before the Volcanic Cave.