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Your first goal with this build is to reach 20k accuracy for {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, which means the spell won't miss at all. Therefore, while the build only requires {{SkillReq|Magic|72}}, you will need at most level {{SkillReq|Magic|83}} to achieve this goal or multiple Accuracy bonuses from various other skills, including:
Your first goal with this build is to reach 20k accuracy for {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, which means the spell won't miss at all. Therefore, while the build only requires {{SkillReq|Magic|72}} at minimum, you will need at most level {{SkillReq|Magic|83}} or multiple Accuracy bonuses from various other skills to achieve 20k Accuracy Rating, including:
 
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Revision as of 04:09, 14 June 2022

This page was last updated for (v1.0.2).

TL;DR

Farm the Ancient Claw Fragments with the

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Slicing Winds

build right after you finish

100
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Volcanic Caves

.

Introduction

Ancient Claw is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.

The Ancient Claw is assembled from the fragments that drop only from the Pegasus. You need to kill 3333 Pegasi on average to get enough fragments.

The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the

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Volcanic Cave

because this dungeon is farmed with a Melee build and is vital for idling the

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Air God Dungeon

.

To answer these questions, we will consider the following builds:

These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming the Pegasus. The ranged builds were not considered because the Pegasus is

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Melee

and has the highest evasion against

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Ranged

in addition to the Combat Triangle.

In the considered situations, no prayers, potions, or other buffs are enabled unless specified.
The skill levels are given so that you can replicate the simulations in the Combat Simulator.

The

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Auto Eat - Tier III

is used.

The Whale (Perfect) was used as a food of choice because it was considered a middle ground between starting out and being fully leveled out in Firemaking, Fishing, Farming, and Cooking.

The ring slot is always occupied with Magical Ring.

Builds

The simulations were done for

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Hardcore

with all skills on level 75.

All intermediate steps can be found in this spreadsheet (link).

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Surge
magic

Item DR
Slayer Wizard Hat (Strong) 0%
Slayer Wizard Robes (Strong) 0%
Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms 5%
Fire Expert Wizard Boots 5%
Miolite Shield 2%
Enchanted Cape 0%
Amulet of Magic 0%
Paladin Gloves 4%
Magic Wand (Powerful) 0%
Total 16%

The grind time with this build is 122 hour.
However, pay attention that it would be more than 283 hours without the Slayer gear.

Rapier melee

Item DR
Slayer Helmet (Strong) 0%
Slayer Platebody (Strong) 0%
(G) Dragon Platelegs 6%
(G) Dragon Boots 6%
(G) Dragon Shield 6%
Promotion or Glory 0%
Paladin Gloves 4%
Sunset Rapier 0%
Total 22%

The grind time with this build is 67 hours.
If you don't use the Slayer gear, the grind time with this build will be 142 hours.

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Slicing Winds
magic

Item DR
Ancient Wizard Hat 5%
Ancient Wizard Robes 5%
Ancient Wizard Bottoms 5%
Ancient Wizard Boots 5%
Miolite Shield 2%
Skull Cape 3%
Elite Amulet of Magic 2%
Elementalist Gloves 0%
Magic Wand (Powerful) 0%
Total 24%

Your first goal with this build is to reach 20k accuracy for

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Slicing Winds

, which means the spell won't miss at all. Therefore, while the build only requires

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Level 72

at minimum, you will need at most level

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Level 83

or multiple Accuracy bonuses from various other skills to achieve 20k Accuracy Rating, including:

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Surge I

or

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Surge II

can be used if you can afford them.

Worth noting that using a Mystic Air Staff will drastically reduce the amount of runes spent - especially while using Surge Auroras. The staff will be slower, and will require more

Warning: Swapping Miolite Shield to Book of Eli will not positively affect your kill times that much, while also forcing you to spend more runes/time Runecrafting.

The grind time with this build is 48 hours. The slayer gear doesn't add to the clear speed in this case.

Glacia magic

Item DR
Glacia God Helmet 8%
Glacia God Platebody 8%
Glacia God Platelegs 8%
Glacia God Boots 8%
Glacia God Gloves 8%
Miolite Shield 2%
Infernal Cape 4%
Elite Amulet of Magic 2%
Magic Wand (Powerful) 0%
Total 48%

The grind time with this build is 44 hours.

However, this build implies that you go through the

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Air God Dungeon

with Sunset Rapier, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost you more than 4 hours of the difference between this build and the Slicing Winds build.

Analysis

Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster:

  • Rapier > Claw > Volcano,
  • Rapier > Volcano > Claw.

Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano

Let's consider the builds Rapier and Slicing Winds.

The difference between their timings of completing the claw is 19 hours.

The Volcano grind of the full ancient set is longer with the with Sunset Rapier than it is with the Claw.

The question is then if the difference between the rapier and the claw in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 19 hours.

We know the length of "Rapier > Claw" and "Volcano > Claw", but we need the data on "Rapier > Volcano" and "Claw > Volcano".

We take this data from Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice.

Item Adjusted clears per hour
Sunset Rapier 5.204
Ancient Claw 5.412

The goal of clearing the

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Volcanic Cave

is to get the ancient set.

As specified on in the Volcanic Cave/Guide, you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armor or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% or results) is 564 clears.

Item Adjusted clears per hour 564 clears (h) 832 clears (h) 1350 clears (h)
Sunset Rapier 5.204 108.4 160 259.4
Ancient Claw 5.412 104.2 153.7 249.5
Difference (h) 4.2 6.3 10.1

The biggest difference is 10 hours. It means that Rapier>Volcano>Claw is faster than Rapier>Claw>Volcano by at least 9 hours.

However, what if we were to use the Ancient Magicks as soon as we unlock it?

Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano

It is possible to clear the Volcano using the Ancient Magicks with the build from Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with

920
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HP

to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the

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Stone Skin

prayer or through the DR potion II. Without prayer or potions, you need

940
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HP

.

If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the 100-Volcanoes Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:

  • Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
  • 100 Rapier Volcanoes + Claw farm with Ancient Magicks.
Item Adjusted clears per hour 100 clears (h)
Sunset Rapier 5.204 52.04
Ancient Claw 5.412 54.12
Difference (h) 2.08

In other words, the advantage of farming 100

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Volcanic Caves

with the Ancient Claw when compared to the Sunset Rapier is 2 hours.

Now we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare:

  • Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
  • Claw farm with Slicing Winds + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.

We subtract the second row from the first one and get

[math]\displaystyle{ 19 - 2.08 = 16.92 }[/math]

In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by 17 hours.

Conclusion

Farm the Ancient Claw with the

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Slicing Winds

build right after you finish

100
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Volcanic Caves

. Don't forget to enable the Surge aurora.

If you cannot use this build for some reason, then use the Rapier melee build with Slayer gear.