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Golbin Raid/Guide

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RobDragon's Golbin Raid Guide (Partially Updated For 1.0)

TL;DR

General Information

Setting Goals

  • Rewards from Golbin Raid have no impact on Completion Log %.
  • Limited purchase upgrades will cost 1,145,000 raid coins. This requires finishing wave 280 once, which can be possible in one run.
  • Infinite raid coins through skipping to a point where you earn more coins than you spend is possible. This requires 50% Reduce Wave Skip Cost, 6,138,000 raid coins, and skipping past wave 495.

Broad Tactics

  • By far the most important aspect of succeeding in Golbin Raid is getting one of the few top-tier weapon special attacks that have either guaranteed hits or scaling damage.
  • The special attacks of the one handed t90 (tier/level 90 weapons from normal Melvor) weapons   Ocean Song,
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    Shockwave    , and   Tidal Edge fit this description, along with limited other weapons such as   Stormsnap.
  • Damage reduction is crucial to avoiding deaths from worst case scenario luck. Players should aim to be unkillable through auto eat to normal golbins and unkillable from maximum health to boss golbins.
  • The way the game scales player and golbin stats, avoiding all death is typically possible through being close to the maximum damage reduction available.
  • Maintaining sufficient resources such as food, runes, and ammunition is also necessary. Resource use can be significantly reduced through lifesteal and special attack reliance.
  • Lifesteal is incredibly effective at keeping players above the auto eat threshold with a top-tier special attack. Not guaranteed survival though. With the same lifesteal %, flat damage special attacks will heal a smaller percentage of overall health at higher waves.
  • Bosses are the red golbins at the end of every 10th wave. Like normal golbins, they may have a special effect that modifies their stats, potentially buffing their maximum hit. In the later waves, a boss with a style that the player is weak to and a +maximum hit modifier could kill you in one hit.
  • For difficult bosses, use your maximum damage spell, Surge II, and spam eat (be careful holding enter over clicking as you may automatically swap weapons after killing the boss). Possibly delay eating if still above the maximum hit threshold to maximise damage.
  • Prayer is best used on difficult bosses. Around wave 240 the bosses become tough. Turn on Stone Skin (damage reduction prayer) before the boss. Have the dodge prayer on for the style you are weak to (Protect from Ranged for magic users), but be ready to swap before the first boss attack if it is a different style.
  • Ensure you have ample resources before a difficult boss wave, as a dangerous boss can drain lots of food and runes. This is especially the case with some   Guardian Amulet setups as some bosses can attack faster than you.
  • As raids can be very long (much longer than the offline timer) it is assumed that most of the non-boss golbins will be idled. The more players are willing to monitor their health, the more efficiency can be gained through reward choices.
  • If you do not manage to find a top-tier weapon for long enough that you can not maintain a decent amount of weapon rolls, it may be worth restarting the raid.

Gear Availability

Combat Triangle

  • Survivability generally focuses on minimising worst case scenarios, therefore the main danger of death comes from strong golbins who counter the player's attack style.
  • As maintaining near maximum damage reduction becomes essential to survive, the differences in the combat triangle multipliers significantly impacts weapon choices.
  • Worst case damage reduction multipliers:
    • Melee: 0.75x vs Magic (0.5x in Hardcore/Adventure Mode)
    • Ranged: 0.95x vs Melee (0.75x in Hardcore/Adventure Mode)
    • Magic: 0.85x vs Ranged (0.75x in Hardcore/Adventure Mode)
  • While ranged has the most favourable worst cast damage reduction multiplier, magic weapons have access to Weakening III which reduces enemy maximum hit by 15% (golbins do not have special attacks).
  • Assuming the player's first attack is always before each golbin's first attack, and attacks are not delayed by eating enough for a golbin to attack between Weakening III applications, magic will almost always take less damage than ranged.
  • At maximum damage reduction from gear of 65%, range (65% x 0.95 = 61%) would take 390 damage from a 1000 damage attack. Magic (65% x 0.85 = 55%) would first reduce a 1000 damage maximum hit to 850 and take 382 from the hit.
  • Only with maximum damage reduction from gear and extra damage reduction from effects such as Stone Skin prayer does ranged take less maximum damage to magic, however in typical scenarios magic will take less damage, and magic's lead increases the lower damage reduction the player has.

Shop Upgrades (in rough order of importance)

  • Reduce Wave Skip Cost is capped at 50. This is the most important upgrade to buy if you want to go infinite.
  • Unlock Combat Passive Slot has the most potential benefit for combat, however it usually results in nothing due to the amount of useless items in the roll pool. Unique purchase.
  • Unlocking Prayer is a unique purchase.
  • Increase Prayer Level is capped at 99. Prayer can be used to kill late game boss golbins more reliably.
  • Increase Prayer Points gained per Wave Completion is significantly more efficient to buy than Increase Starting Prayer Points. Non-unique purchases.
  • Rune Pouch and Ammo Gatherer have % scaling and will remain useful to the late game. Could be useful for Prayer Scrolls and Wizard's Scrolls. Non-unique purchases.
  • Food Bonus is a solid boost to early game food, but has little scaling. Non-unique purchase.
  • Preston the Platypus helps get BiS armour faster after finding a top-tier weapon. Unique purchase.
  • Jerry the Giraffe can reduce the restart spam due to removing reliance on luck in the first two waves. Unique purchase.
  •   Yellow Party Hat has no use in Golbin Raid. Non-unique purchase but you only need one.

Warnings

  • Ensure you have the required runes to cast the selected standard/ancient magic spell before choosing a magic weapon, and the required ammunition type before choosing a ranged weapon, otherwise your weapon will be set to default (  Bronze Scimitar or   Adamant Scimitar).
  • Hardcore and Adventure mode combat triangle and health changes are present in Golbin Raid. This will impact strategy, mainly making melee significantly worse than it already is and making ranged lose its damage reduction benefit over magic.

Notes

  • (ALT) weapons have a completely random special attack. You cannot see what the special attack will be, and the special attack does not change unless you pick a different weapon.
  •   Sandstorm Ring can no longer turn into an ALT item in Golbin Raid. The combat style crafting rings still can.
  • Manually eating will reset your attack, and your following attack will not be a special attack.
  • You can no longer eat during the channel of a channeled special attack without cancelling the attack.
  • Prayer now works in Golbin Raid. As prayers can set specific dodge chances to 85%, this reduces the effectiveness of stacking evasion to the combat style weakness.
  • You can not pause or save a raid.

Specific Wave Strategies

Waves 1/2

  • The primary goal when starting a run is to get a weapon that is strong until wave 20 in one roll. Any weapon of dragon tier or above will suffice.
  • While melee has the worst combat triangle, this is much less relevant early game, so the lack of reliance on resources makes it attractive.
  • If the player wants the option to use crossbows post wave 20, it is recommended to use wave 1 to roll for any bolts, and settle for a potentially worse weapon on wave 2. The   Adamant Scimitar from the shop works well to save a roll.

Waves 3-19

  • The rolls from these waves should be used to gain adequate damage reduction, evasion, and resources to maximise weapon rolls after wave 20 until a top-tier weapon is found.
  • Maintaining enough food to reach the next wave is top priority, however choosing food should be done at the latest possible safe time. For the initial   Shrimp, this is usually one to two waves after beginning to eat.
  • Food value can be approximately judged by multiplying quantity by healing amount, however high healing food has the potential to be wasted by overhealing in the early game, and low healing food can make it harder to manually eat for bosses.
  • Manually eating right after the player attacks will restore health without the 20% healing reduction from Auto Eat - Tier II for minimal damage loss. This is most easily utilised in the early preparation stage.
  • Getting a few pieces of damage reduction gear is important to prevent worst case scenario deaths for many waves to come.
  • High evasion gear that does not significantly reduce damage output will reduce resource usage, resulting in more weapon rolls later, and can reduce the chance to be killed by any rare dangerous golbins.
  • Some BiS (best in slot) gear can be found before wave 20, see below for BiS lists. BiS gear and some high tier damage focused items will be worth sacrificing small amounts of damage reduction for.
  • Rolling for passive very often results in an item that does essentially nothing. Skipping passive at wave 10 for one more roll can lead to better preparation and a faster top-tier weapon, however BiS passive items are often never obtained due to low frequency of rolls available.

Wave 20+

  • Find a top-tier special attack as quickly as possible, which typically means finding a top-tier weapon. Possibly skip passive rolls for now.
  • ALT weapons make it possible to get special attacks on weapons they are not normally on, which allows special attacks to be used on weapons of different combat styles and speeds. However, this becomes riskier the longer the raid as the detriment of getting a weak weapon increases with wave count.
  • The ideal ALT weapon would be the fastest available speed to maximise special attack frequency, one handed to utilise offhand gear, and magic for the combat triangle style and access to curses and auroras.
  • If a scaling rather than flat damage special is obtained on a magic weapon, rune usage may increase as spell damage may become a much bigger factor in overall damage.

Special Attacks

Top-tier special attacks include (roughly in order):
    •   Ocean Song: 35% chance, guaranteed hit, high damage, enemy attack slow, enemy evasion reduction. Best special attack for (very approximately) ~250-300 waves.
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      Shockwave      : 15% chance, guaranteed hit, high scaling damage, 1 turn stun, enemy evasion reduction. Will overtake Ocean Song on damage at (very approximately) ~250-300 waves.
    •   Stormsnap: 15% chance, guaranteed hit, high scaling damage. Will overtake Ocean Song on damage at (very approximately) ~250-300 waves.
    •   Tidal Edge (Tidal Wave): 25% chance, guaranteed hit, high damage, enemy attack slow, enemy evasion reduction. Slightly worse version of Ocean Song.
Decent special attacks include (roughly in order):
    •   Cloudburst Staff (Magic Ray): 100% chance, not guaranteed hit, high scaling damage, enemy attack slow, channeled (can eat during). Very useful if found early to rush to a top-tier special attack.
    •   Ragnar Godsword (Infernum): 15% chance, guaranteed hit, scaling damage. Possibly a good stepping stone special attack.
    •   Terran Godsword (Crushing Blow): 15% chance, guaranteed hit, scaling damage. Possibly a good stepping stone special attack.

~Wave 50+

  • After choosing a top-tier magic weapon, quickly roll runes to unlock light>havoc>body>ancient to take advantage of more runes when needing to roll +all.
  • For standard magic, use fire spells to do more damage and balance rune usage. Start with Fire Strike, and transition to Fire Surge when you can sustain the rune rolls without sacrificing searching for BiS armour.
  • Optionally, unlock blood, death, or chaos runes if you feel your rune usage is balanced somewhere between strike and surge spells.
  • Incinerate has guaranteed hits and scaling current health damage, which gives magic without a scaling special attack the potential to transition to scaling damage. * * This point would likely be much later than
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    Shockwave     overtakes   Ocean Song on damage though.
  • Also, remember that special attacks will not activate and curses can not be used with Ancient Magicks. Depending on your progression, rune balance, and amount of active vs idle play, use Weakening III and alternate between Fervor II and Surge II.
  • After choosing a top-tier ranged weapon, try to upgrade bolt tier when rolling for ammo, but it is not as high priority as beginning to gather BiS armour.
  • At this point rolling for passive is always recommended. Due to the insanely low chance to get a top-tier passive, it may be best to settle on whichever you get first.

Passive Slot

Top-tier passive slot effects include (roughly in order):
    •   Elder Crown: 10% global lifesteal, -0.05s attack interval. Realistically the overall best. Only source of very valuable lifesteal if playing ranged. Don't have to sacrifice a damage reduction helmet.
    •   Warlock Amulet: 10% magic lifesteal. Close second if playing magic and not swapping.
    •   Guardian Amulet: 5% damage reduction, +10% attack interval, both doubled under 50% hitpoints. Only way to reach maximum damage reduction, allowing a FeZ (  Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs) in the amulet slot. Safe option if you already have lifesteal, but will cause long raids to take even longer.
Decent passive slot effects include (roughly in order):
    •   Deadeye Amulet: 25% chance for 150% ranged damage. Big ranged damage, however probably more suited to the amulet slot for ranged.
    •   Sand Treaders: -0.05s attack interval. Good synergy with strong special attacks.
    •   Silver Sapphire Necklace. Small amount of valuable lifesteal.
    •   Recoil Shield: 25% damage reflect. Small damage increase.
    •   Dragonfire Shield: 30 maximum hitpoints. Minor survivability increase.
    •   Priest Hat: -1 prayer point cost. Better than nothing, although prayer points do not scale well enough for proper use outside of bosses.

~Wave 60+

  • Now most rolls will be for armour.

BiS Magic Armour

BiS Ranged Armour

BiS Offhands

BiS Rings

BiS Amulets

BiS Capes

BiS Ammunition

Meta

  • The meta playstyle is for completing everything completable in Golbin Raid. This includes unlocking all the unique shop purchases and going infinite for unlimited raid coins through skipping.
  • Magic with
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    Shockwave     special attack likely has the ability to go the furthest without skipping, through scaling damage and increased efficiency. However, this is probably not the most efficient way to go infinite.
  • A singular, ultra deep ranged run is likely to die to bad luck eventually without boss skip preparation. Multiple fast magic raids probably have the most coin value per time spent.
  • High damage, high lifesteal builds that sacrifice small amounts of damage reduction, and definitely   Guardian Amulet, for efficiency are meta if the player has a small stockpile of raid coins to skip boss waves late game (around wave 240).
  • Focus on the guide's recommendations, learn the game, unlock some initial upgrades, and keep a few coins.
  • If you can reach around wave 280 the first time you see an   Ocean Song, you can buy out the unique purchases and will likely have some coins left over from other runs.
  • Use your upgrades, coin stockpile, and experience to push three runs to around wave 360, possibly skipping to 495 on your last run, and you will then have enough to skip all the way from wave 0 back to wave 495 and then beyond.

Resources

Old Guide

  • Spam wave 1 until you get a decent dragon weapon or higher.
  • Choose armour until wave 19, with priority high Damage Resistance (DR) for idle play or maybe some more offensive options before best-in-slot (BiS) items if you play actively. Pick food first 1-2 waves after you start eating the shrimp and then whenever low, possibly roll bolts to make use of any good 1h range weapons while rolling weapon.
  • For wave 20 and higher, your goal is to get a fast mage weapon with   Ocean Song special attack. Range style has a better combat triangle, but mage will be better after you can keep the weakening curse enabled permanently. Keep in mind that the special attack of the item is not visible until you choose it.
  • You have to get lucky with a good weapon without going too far because getting a bad weapon in the later stages could brick your run.
  • After you get a weapon, roll runes, unlock light/body/havoc/ancient without running out of basic runes and food.
  • Use Fire Strike, Weakening 3, and alternate between Fervor 2 for idle and Surge 2 for active play, also to balance rune usage, can use fire surge on bosses if enough runes but don't click something you don't have runes for or your precious weapon will become   Bronze Scimitar, which is equivalent to death.
  • The Ocean Song special attack takes care of all damage, so get armour with high DR to survive, and high evasion mainly to your weakness (range) but also overall evasion if you are going to idle and to conserve food for more armour rolls.
  • Lifesteal means you are much less likely to sit around the Auto Eat range, still possible to die idle all the time though.   Elder Crown passive,   Warlock Amulet, and Fervor 2 could be BiS for idle play.
  • Bosses are at the end of each 10 waves, are red, and can eventually one shot your from full health. You need to play actively when doing 10th wave to be safe.
  • For hard bosses, turn on Fire Surge, Surge 2, and hold the eat button. It can use a lot of food later on so have plenty of food/runes before doing 10th wave, with guardian amulet a very fast boss can outspeed you. If you can't afford the food let go of enter when you get an Ocean Song proc and then hold again to top yourself before next attack. However, you still can die to low healing food or bad timing.
  • If you already have a fast mage weapon, you can possibly get ocean song on a   Sandstorm Ring. This way, you don't need Ocean Song on the weapon.
  • Rune pouch has percentage scaling and could save a lot of rolls, possibly best value for coins but not a unique purchase, and I would assume raid balance will change. The food upgrade is decent early game.
  • Prayer doesn't work. You can buy initial prayer points, but prayers do nothing and you get no points per wave, level purchase capped at 99.
  • Reduce wave skip capped at 50, potentially infinite coins if you can be bothered getting enough coins for initial investment and then spamming skips.
  • Scaling specs like
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    Shockwave     or   Stormsnap have the potential to become better DPS in super-late-game but may lose you mage combat triangle/auroras/curses/shield, and it would be insanely risky to roll ALT weapons. You will likely die to idle RNG or boss oneshot before it becomes necessary for raid value.
  • Make sure your default spell is set to something that uses runes you have before going mage, and you have the correct ammo before going range, otherwise your weapon will turn into   Bronze Scimitar.
First Discord Guide

https://discord.com/channels/625838709203271680/744752345233227776/818393165777207296

Second Discord Guide

https://discord.com/channels/625838709203271680/744752345233227776/906227966386794556


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