Ancient Claw/Guide

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For the fastest completion time, farm the Ancient Claw Fragments with the

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Summary

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Slicing Winds

build right after you finish

100
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Volcanic Cave

clears.

Introduction

Ancient Claw is largely the best melee weapon that does not require late-game content to obtain.

The Ancient Claw is assembled from the fragments that drop only from Pegasus. On average, 3,333 Pegasi kills are required in order to obtain enough fragments.

The question is when to farm it and what combat style is the best for that. The main point of contention is whether to farm it before or after the

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Volcanic Cave

, as this dungeon is farmed with a

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Melee

build and is vital for idling the

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Air God Dungeon

.

To answer these questions, the following builds will be considered:

These builds were chosen to show the changes that the various drops bring into farming Pegasus.

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Ranged

builds were not considered because the Pegasus is

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Melee

and has the highest evasion against Ranged in addition to the Combat Triangle.

Builds

Each build assumes the following:

  • The ring slot is always occupied with Magical Ring.
  • No prayers, potions, or other buffs are enabled unless specified.
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    Auto Eat - Tier III
    is used.
  • Whale (Perfect) is used as the Food of choice because it is considered a middle ground between starting out and being fully levelled in
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    Firemaking
    ,
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    Fishing
    ,
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    Farming
    , and
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    Cooking
    .
  • The character is on the
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    Hardcore
    game mode with all Combat skills at level 75. This means all builds presented here are suitable regardless of the game mode being played.

Skill levels are given so that these simulations may be replicated using the Combat Simulator add-in.

All intermediate steps can be found in this spreadsheet.

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Surge
Magic

The average time to obtain all 100 Ancient Claw Fragments with this build is 122 hours. However, note that without Slayer gear this can be in excess of 283 hours.

Rapier Melee

The grind time with this build is 67 hours. Without Slayer gear, this time increases significantly to 142 hours.

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Slicing Winds
Magic

Reaching at least 20,000 accuracy is key for this build, as this prevents

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Slicing Winds

from missing. Therefore, while the build only requires a minimum of

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Level 72

, and at most

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Level 93

or multiple accuracy bonuses from sources such as:

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Surge I

or

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Surge II

can be used if you can afford them.

Worth noting that using a Mystic Air Staff will drastically reduce the amount of runes spent - especially while using Surge Auroras. The staff will be slower, and will require more time to complete the grind.

Warning: Swapping Miolite Shield for Book of Eli will not significantly reduce kill times, while also forcing you to spend more runes and therefore more time Runecrafting.

The grind time with this build is 48 hours. Slayer equipment has no impact on the clear speed in this case.

Glacia Magic

The grind time with this build is 44 hours.

However, this build implies that the

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Air God Dungeon

would need to be cleared with Sunset Rapier, which is a sizeable loss of DPS that will cost more than 4 hours of the difference between this build and the Slicing Winds build.

Analysis

Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster:

  • Rapier → Claw → Volcano,
  • Rapier → Volcano → Claw.

Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano

Let's consider the builds Rapier and Slicing Winds.

The difference between their timings of completing the   claw is 19 hours.

The Volcano grind of the full   ancient set is longer with the with   Sunset Rapier than it is with the Claw.

The question is then if the difference between the   rapier and the   claw in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 19 hours.

We know the length of "Rapier → Claw" and "Volcano → Claw", but we need the data on "Rapier → Volcano" and "Claw → Volcano".

We take this data from Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice.

Item Adjusted clears per hour
  Sunset Rapier 5.204
  Ancient Claw 5.412

The goal of clearing the

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Volcanic Cave

is to get the   ancient set.

As specified on in the Volcanic Cave/Guide, you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armour or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% of results) is 564 clears.

Item Adjusted clears per hour 564 clears (h) 832 clears (h) 1350 clears (h)
  Sunset Rapier 5.204 108.4 160 259.4
  Ancient Claw 5.412 104.2 153.7 249.5
Difference (h) 4.2 6.3 10.1

The biggest difference is 10 hours. It means that Rapier → Volcano → Claw is faster than Rapier → Claw → Volcano by at least 9 hours.

However, what if we were to use the Ancient Magicks as soon as we unlock it?

Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano

It is possible to clear the Volcano using Ancient Magicks with the build from Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with

920
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HP

to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the

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Stone Skin

prayer or through the   DR potion II. Without prayer or potions, you need

940
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HP

.

If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the 100-Volcanoes Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:

  • Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
  • 100 Rapier Volcanoes + Claw farm with Ancient Magicks.
Item Adjusted clears per hour 100 clears (h)
  Sunset Rapier 5.204 52.04
  Ancient Claw 5.412 54.12
Difference (h) 2.08

In other words, the advantage of farming 100

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Volcanic Caves

with the   Ancient Claw when compared to the   Sunset Rapier is 2 hours.

Now we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare:

  • Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
  • Claw farm with Slicing Winds + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.

We subtract the second row from the first one and get

[math]\displaystyle{ 19 - 2.08 = 16.92 }[/math]

In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by 17 hours.

Conclusion

Farm the   Ancient Claw with the

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Slicing Winds

build right after you finish

100
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Volcanic Caves

. Don't forget to enable the Surge aurora.

If you cannot use this build for some reason, then use the Rapier melee build with Slayer gear.