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The overall grind time with this build is 50 hours.
The overall grind time with this build is 50 hours.
==Analysis==
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Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster:
* Rapier > Claw > Volcano,
* Rapier > Volcano > Claw.
====Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano====
Let's consider the Sunset Rapier and Glacia builds.
The difference between their timings of completing the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} is 27 hours.
The Volcano grind of the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set is longer with the with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} than it is with the Claw.
The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 27 hours.
We know the length of "Raper > Claw" and "Volcano > Claw", but we need the data on "Rapier > Volcano" and "Claw > Volcano".
We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]].
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! Adjusted clear time (s)
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1892
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 1717
|}
The goal of clearing the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} is to get the {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set.
As specified on in the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide]], you need 1350 clears to almost certainly get a full set of Ancient armor or 832 clears to have a 75% chance. The median (50% or results) is 564 clears.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! Adjusted clear time (clears/h)
! 564 clears (h)
! 832 clears (h)
! 1350 clears (h)
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1.9027
| 296.4
| 437
| 710
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 2.0967
| 267
| 397
| 644
|-
| Difference (h)
|
| 29
| 40
| 66
|}
As you see from the Difference row, even the 50% chance still gives the 4-hour advantage if you get the Claw before the Volcanic Cave.
Therefore, if you farm the Volcanic Cave completely with the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and then farm the Claw with Glacia, the sum of the Volcanic and Claw farm will be larger than if you were to farm the Claw with the Rapier and then doing the Volcanic Cave. And we didn't even consider the time loss of doing the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} with the Rapier instead of the Claw.
However, what if we were to use the [[Ancient Magicks]] as soon as we unlock it?
====Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano====
It is possible to clear the Volcano using the Ancient Magicks with the build from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic]]. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=920|HP}} to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the {{Icon|Stone Skin|type=prayer}} prayer or through the {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion II|DR potion II}}.
If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|100-Volcanoes]] Magic build, then we compare the two sequences:
* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
* 100 Rapier Volcanoes + Claw farm with Ancient Magicks.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! Adjusted clear time (clears/h)
! 100 clears (h)
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 1.9027
| 52.56
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 2.0967
| 47.69
|-
| Difference (h)
|
| 4.87
|}
In other words, the advantage of farming 100 Volcanic Caves with the Claw when compared to the Sunset Rapier is less than 5 hours.
If we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare
* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes,
* Claw farm with Ancient Magicks + 100 Rapier Volcanoes.
and then subtract the second row from the first one, then we would get
<math>27 - 4.87 = 22.13</math>
In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by 22 hours.


==Conclusion==
==Conclusion==
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