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== Prayer Point Acquisition Rates ==
== Prayer Point Acquisition Rates ==
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{{Skill|Fishing}} with the Dragon Fishing Rod has the catching <math>(2.4 + 7.2) / 2 = 9.6 / 2 = 4.8</math> seconds.
The general formula used for {{Skill|Fishing}} is <math>P \times A_F \times \tfrac{2^M \times \left ( 1 + C_D \right ) + C_A}{S}</math>, where:
* <math>P</math> is the prayer points per fish, a constant of 3 for {{ItemIcon|Raw Skeleton Fish}}
* <math>A_F</math> is the area's fish chance, a base of 95% (or 0.95) for the Secret Area
* <math>M</math> is the number of things guaranteed to double the number of fish caught
* <math>C_D</math> is the chance to double, provided from a wide range of sources such as the {{ItemIcon|Fishing Hook}}
* <math>C_A</math> is the chance to gain 1 additional resource, provided by {{ItemIcon|Octopus}}
* <math>S</math> is the average number of seconds between catches


With the {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing}}, it's <math>(1.8 + 5.4) / 2 = 7.2 / 2 = 3.6</math> seconds.
{{Skill|Fishing}} with the {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Fishing Rod}} has an average catch time of <math>S = \tfrac{2.4 + 7.2}{2} = 4.8</math> seconds. With the {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing}}, this is reduced further to <math>S = \tfrac{1.8 + 5.4}{2} = 3.6</math> seconds, and can be reduced further still with {{Icon|type=constellation|Ameria}}.


The {{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape}} and {{MasteryReq|Raw Skeleton Fish|99}}, when both are active <math>M = 2</math> and so guaranteed doubling provides <math>2^2 = 4</math> times the usual number of fish.
Assuming a somewhat optimal setup as per [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oDeCK-ObKd8xBlCcJtA_pBmXzkgg9wm5NwL8GI8tqhk this sheet], the time between catches reduces to <math>S = 2.8</math> seconds, chance to double becomes <math>C_D = 0.66 = 66\%</math>, and the additional resource chance becomes <math>C_A = 0.03 = 3\%</math>. This assumes 10% chance to double and 10% interval reduction from {{Skill|Astrology}}, as rolls higher than this require too much dust.
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{{Skill|Alternative Magic|Alt.Magic}} has the interval of 2 seconds. With {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Incantation}}, the Alt.Magic interval goes down to 1.8 seconds.
{{Skill|Alternative Magic|Alt.Magic}} has the interval of 2 seconds. With {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Incantation}}, the Alt.Magic interval goes down to 1.8 seconds.


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The rune expenditure can be mitigated further by the {{ItemIcon|Nature's Call Staff}} and the {{ItemIcon|Magic Skillcape}}, leaving only one {{ItemIcon|Earth Rune}} per cast. Using the [[Shop#God_Upgrades|God Upgrades]], It can be sped up to roughly <math>(0.85+1.7)/16/\frac{1}{1-0.8} = 0.0319</math> seconds per a Blessed Offering cast.
The rune expenditure can be mitigated further by the {{ItemIcon|Nature's Call Staff}} and the {{ItemIcon|Magic Skillcape}}, leaving only one {{ItemIcon|Earth Rune}} per cast. Using the [[Shop#God_Upgrades|God Upgrades]], It can be sped up to roughly <math>(0.85+1.7)/16/\frac{1}{1-0.8} = 0.0319</math> seconds per a Blessed Offering cast.
 
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In {{Skill|Astrology}}, we take 10% doubling and 10% interval reduction because the higher rolls require too much dust.
 
Aside from the cape, the final doubling modifier for the Bone Fish method is 1+{{MasteryReq|Raw Skeleton Fish|99}}+{{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring|Aorpheat}}+{{ItemIcon|Fishermans Potion IV|potion}}+{{ItemIcon|Fishing Hook|hook}}+{{Skill|Astrology|Astrology doubling}} is <math>1 + (99-1) \times 0.004 + 0.12 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 = 1.812</math>
 
{{ItemIcon|Sailor's Top}} is not accounted for because otherwise you would have to redo all Bone Fish formulas with accounting for the special chance, which will complicate them too much.
 
For {{Skill|Slayer}} calculation in [[Combat Simulator]], the following setup was used:<br>
For {{Skill|Slayer}} calculation in [[Combat Simulator]], the following setup was used:<br>
Full {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia set}}, {{ItemIcon|Skull Cape}}, {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Magic}}, {{ItemIcon|Cloudburst Staff}},<br>
Full {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Helmet|Glacia set}}, {{ItemIcon|Skull Cape}}, {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Magic}}, {{ItemIcon|Cloudburst Staff}},<br>
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! Result
! Result
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|-
| Fishing {{ItemIcon|Raw Skeleton Fish}} with [[Fishing#Fishing_Rods|Dragon Rod]]
| Fishing {{ItemIcon|Raw Skeleton Fish}} with [[Fishing#Fishing_Rods|Dragon Rod]] and {{MasteryReq|Raw Skeleton Fish|1}}
| <math>3/4.8</math>
| <math>3 \times 0.95 \times \tfrac{1 + 0.004}{4.8}</math>
| 0.63
| 0.60
|-
|-
| Fishing {{ItemIcon|Raw Skeleton Fish}} with Dragon Rod + {{MasteryReq|Raw Skeleton Fish|99}}
| Fishing {{ItemIcon|Raw Skeleton Fish}} with Dragon Rod and {{MasteryReq|Raw Skeleton Fish|99}}
| <math>3 \times 2 \times 1.392/4.8</math>
| <math>3 \times 0.92 \times \tfrac{2}{4.8}</math>
| 1.74
| 1.15
|-
| Fishing {{ItemIcon|Raw Skeleton Fish}} with Dragon Rod, {{MasteryReq|Raw Skeleton Fish|99}}, {{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape|Cape}}, and {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing|Amulet}}
| <math>3 \times 0.92 \times \tfrac{2^2}{3.6}</math>
| 3.07
|-
|-
| Alt. Magic/{{Icon|type=spell|Blessed Offering}} with {{ItemIcon|Staff of Earth|Staff}}
| Alt. Magic/{{Icon|type=spell|Blessed Offering}} with {{ItemIcon|Staff of Earth|Staff}}
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| <math>3 \times 3/(2 + 0.0319)</math>
| <math>3 \times 3/(2 + 0.0319)</math>
| 4.43
| 4.43
|-
| Fishing {{ItemIcon|Raw Skeleton Fish}} with Dragon Rod, {{MasteryReq|Raw Skeleton Fish|99}}, {{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape|Cape}}, and {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing|Amulet}}
| <math>3 \times 4 \times 1.392/3.6</math>
| 4.64
|-
|-
| Alt. Magic/{{Icon|type=spell|Blessed Offering}} with {{ItemIcon|Nature's Call Staff|Staff}}, {{ItemIcon|Magic Skillcape|Cape}}, {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Incantation|Amulet}} and [[Shop#God_Upgrades|God Upgrades]]
| Alt. Magic/{{Icon|type=spell|Blessed Offering}} with {{ItemIcon|Nature's Call Staff|Staff}}, {{ItemIcon|Magic Skillcape|Cape}}, {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Incantation|Amulet}} and [[Shop#God_Upgrades|God Upgrades]]
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| 4.91
| 4.91
|-
|-
| Fishing {{ItemIcon|Raw Skeleton Fish}} with everything above plus {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring|Aorpheat}}, {{ItemIcon|Fishermans Potion IV|potion}}, {{ItemIcon|Fishing Hook|hook}}, {{ItemIcon|Octopus}}, and {{Skill|Astrology}}.
| Fishing {{ItemIcon|Raw Skeleton Fish}} with a reasonably optimal setup. <span style="float:right;margin-left:1em;margin-right:0;" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" data-expandtext="Show setup" data-collapsetext="Hide">
| <math>3 \times (4 \times 1.812 + 0.03)/2.8</math>
* {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Fishing Rod}}
| 7.8
* {{MasteryReq|Raw Skeleton Fish|99}} and [[Fishing#Mastery_Pool_Checkpoints|50% Mastery Pool Checkpoint]]
* {{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape}}, {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing}}, {{ItemIcon|Sailor's Top}}, {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}}, {{ItemIcon|Fishing Hook}}, and {{ItemIcon|Octopus}} equipped
* {{PetIcon|Pudding Duckie}} and {{PetIcon|Aquarias}} unlocked
* Rock Climb and Ice Jump [[Agility#Obstacles|Agility Obstacles]], as well as the [[Agility#Passive Pillars|Pillar of Skilling]]
* 10% Chance to double and 10% Interval reduction from {{Icon|type=constellation|Ameria}}</span>
| <math>3 \times 0.95 \times \tfrac{2^2 \times \left ( 1 + 0.66 \right ) + 0.03}{2.8}</math>
| 6.79
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|-
| End-game {{Skill|Slayer}} tasks
| End-game {{Skill|Slayer}} tasks
| details in Calculations above
| Details in Calculations above
| 5.8 barebones<br>34 with proper setup
| 5.8 barebones<br>34 with proper setup
|}  
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