Melvor Idle

Dragons Den/Guide: Difference between revisions

Page Discussion

Dragons Den/Guide (view source)

Revision as of 19:51, 26 June 2024

898 bytes removed ,  26 June
m
no edit summary
m (→‎Adjusted clear time: Fix the global mistake in how I calculated combination runes crafting and mining time)
mNo edit summary
 
(24 intermediate revisions by 7 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{V|1.0.1}}
{{StrategyGuide|This guide is meant for single clears and to enable idling with as low as possible requirements. Not to be the most effective method. Information on equipment, mechanics and strategies are on this page.}}
{{UserContentVersion|1.3}}


===Why clear Dragons Den?===
=Why Clear Dragons Den?=
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons.  
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons. The {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} can be upgraded into the {{ItemIcon|Scaled Shield}}, a bis ranged shield for a very long time.


Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.
Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.


===Gear to idle===
 
* If you wish to tweak the [[Combat Simulator]] Exports yourself, they can be found [[/Sims|here]].
 
 
=Standard Guide=


Because all enemies in {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} are {{Icon|Melee}}, it is advised to use a {{Skill|Magic}} or {{Icon|Melee}} build due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
Because all enemies in {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} are {{Icon|Melee}}, it is advised to use a {{Skill|Magic}} or {{Icon|Melee}} build due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
Line 12: Line 17:
This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}. {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.
This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}. {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.


The simulations are run on a character with lvl 80 in all combat skills except {{Skill|Hitpoints}}.
All the simulations for this guide were done without any [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]]. <br>
If you have {{PetIcon|Finn}} you can subtract 1 {{Skill|Hitpoints|notext=true}} Level from the requirements. <br>
If you have {{PetIcon|Leonardo}} you can subtract 2 {{Skill|Hitpoints|notext=true}} Level from the requirements.
 
According to the [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulation] - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}}. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} with a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.
 
 
==Basic Magic==
 
This part of the guide will need either {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}} '''or''' {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|66}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|50}} to fully idle.
 
This build has around 17 clears per hour.
 
 
===Gear===
 
* Spell: {{Icon|Earth Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes.
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}}  & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Might}}
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Magic
|helm1 = Earth Adept Wizard Hat
|body1 = Earth Adept Wizard Robes
|legs1 = Earth Adept Wizard Bottoms
|boots1 = Earth Adept Wizard Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Skull Cape
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Magic
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Magic Wand (Powerful)
|shield1 = (G) Rune Shield
}}
 
===Agility===
 
Only required if you don't have {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}}.
 
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}
 
 
==Melee==
 
This part of the guide will need {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|76}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|70}} to fully idle. <br>
You can also upgrade the [[Adamant Equipment]] to [[Rune Equipment]] which will lower the requirements to {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|50}} to fully idle.
 
This build has around 12-13 clears per hour.
 
 
===Gear===
 
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}} & {{PrayerIcon|Chivalry}}


Due to the wide range of cases, it is recommended to use the [[Combat Simulator]] to compare the options tailored for your situation.
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Melee
|helm1 = (G) Adamant Helmet
|body1 = (G) Adamant Platebody
|legs1 = (G) Adamant Platelegs
|boots1 = (G) Adamant Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Obsidian Cape
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Defence
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = !{{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}


The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to use {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} if you have it or {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} otherwise.
===Agility===


{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|Boulder Trap
|Raft Building
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}


====Basic Magic====


Below is a basic build that needs {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|90}} to create, {{SkillReq|Magic|78}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=830|type=skill|HP}} to idle.


The spell of choice is {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes.
=Ancient Relics=
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! Slot
! DR%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat}}
| Head
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes}}
| Body
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
| Leggings
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Boots}}
| Boots
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| Hands
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| Weapon
| 0%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 24%
|}


====Melee====
On top of no [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]] this guide will also assume no [[Relics]].


The following build needs {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}} to create, {{SkillReq|Attack|70}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=780|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
Much like any other dungeon up to now, Manual Eating will be required.


{| class="wikitable"
==Magic==
|-
This will require {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|60}} so the level 70 cap increase must be reached.
! Item
! Slot
! DR%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Helmet}}
| Head
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platebody}}
| Body
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platelegs}}
| Leggings
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Boots}}
| Boots
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Shield}}
| Off-hand
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| Hands
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion|Promotion}} or {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Glory|Glory}}
| Neck
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| Weapon
| 0%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 34%
|}


====Advanced Magic====
This Dungeon will take roughly 5.5 minutes to complete with the provided setup.  <br>
For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} and needs {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=860|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
And will take roughly 140 {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} to complete.


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! Slot
! DR%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat}}
| Head
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes}}
| Body
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
| Leggings
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Boots}}
| Boots
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| Weapon
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}}
| Cape
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}}
| Neck
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}}
| Off-hand
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elementalist Gloves}}
| Hands
| 0%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 22%
|}


===Adjusted clear time===
* Spell: {{Icon|Earth Wave|type=spell}}
Adjusted clear time is the time it takes to prepare all needed food and runes plus the time of the clear itself.
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}} & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Might}}  
{| class="wikitable"
! Build
! Adjusted clears per hour
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 3.7
|-
| Basic Magic
| 4.1
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 4.1
|-
| Advanced Magic
| 5.4
|}


{{SpoilerBox|text=
{{Equipment/Recommended
Adjusted clear time <math>A</math> is calculated by dividing the overall time <math>T_{all}</math> by the number of dungeons <math>D_h</math> cleared per one hour.
|style = Magic
|helm1 = Earth Adept Wizard Hat
|body1 = Earth Adept Wizard Robes
|legs1 = Earth Adept Wizard Bottoms
|boots1 = Earth Adept Wizard Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Skull Cape
|neck1 = Amulet of Magic
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Magic Wand (Powerful)
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}


The overall time <math>T_{all}</math> is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} <math>T_c</math>, mine essence <math>T_m</math>, and create runes <math>T_r</math>. All measured in seconds. The number of spent {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes is noted as <math>N</math>.


The {{ItemIcon|Crab}} total preparation time is 6.9 seconds per Crab.


The {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with the combination runes is used.


The approximate {{Icon|Adventure}} situation is taken for Runecrafting. In particular, {{ItemIcon|Mining Gloves}} and {{ItemIcon|Elemental Potion IV|Elemental Potion}} are not used. The Runecrafting 95% milestone of the mastery pool is active, and the runes have 99 mastery, meaning that 16 runes are produced per two seconds. No rune preservation or doubling.


The mining time is the one with the {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Pickaxe}} upgrade - 1.3 seconds. The number of needed essence considers all runes used in crafting: {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|Essence}}, {{ItemIcon|Air Rune|Air}}, {{ItemIcon|Fire Rune|Fire}}, {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune|Smoke}} and {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes.
==Melee==


<math>T_m = N * (7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + 1 / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16</math>
This Dungeon will take roughly 10 minutes to complete with the provided setup. 15 minutes if you use an {{ItemIcon|Ice Sword}}. <br>  
And will take roughly 235-325 {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} to complete.


For <math>T_r</math> compared to <math>T_m</math>, the only difference is that the number of mined essence is multiplied by 2 instead of 1.3.


<math>T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8</math>
{{ItemIcon|Ice Sword}} can be used instead of {{ItemIcon|Rune Claw}}


You can check out the intermediate steps with the following Google Sheet ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wkic1HnSjkvFuq78UhuIe4BUTxc1EcedhRIcKsXRq0I/edit#gid=0 link]).
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Ultimate Strength}} & {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}}
|title=Details|color=default}}


Advanced Magic is the clear leader, therefore it is recommended to farm the Dragons Den dungeon with the Advanced Magic build.
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Melee
|helm1 = (G) Adamant Helmet
|body1 = (G) Adamant Platebody
|legs1 = (G) Adamant Platelegs
|boots1 = (G) Adamant Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Obsidian Cape
|neck1 = Amulet of Calculated Promotion
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Rune Claw
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}


====Food expenditure====
The bulk of time is spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. As an example, with some upgrades ({{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape}}, {{ItemIcon|Cooking Skillcape}}, 99 mastery, top fishing rod, {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing}}), the fishing and cooking times are the following:
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Food
! Fishing time (s)
! Cooking time (s)
! HP
! HP per second
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}}
| 1.97
| 9.35
| 580
| 51.2
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Crab}}
| 0.96
| 5.95
| 150
| 21.7
|}


In other words, if you prepare Whales instead of Crabs, you would more than double your speed of food preparation, which is a huge boost to the clear time.


<br> <br>
{{CombatNav|Dungeon}}
{{Menu}}
{{Menu}}
[[Category:Guides]]
Ayarez
2,073

edits

Retrieved from "https://testwiki.melvoridle.com/w/Special:MobileDiff/49827...76243"