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All drop estimates were done without any [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or {{AgilityIcon|Pillar of Combat}}. Having these will significantly increase your drops per hour. | All drop estimates were done without any [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or {{AgilityIcon|Pillar of Combat}}. Having these will significantly increase your drops per hour. | ||
These guides are aimed at optimal Fragment drops per hour. | |||
The [[Combat Simulator]] exports can be found [[Dark_Waters/Guide/Sims|here]]. | The [[Combat Simulator]] exports can be found [[Dark_Waters/Guide/Sims|here]]. | ||
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Disclaimer
None of these weapons are actually required to beat
.
If you own 
Throne of the Herald Expansion, 
Ocean Song and 
Tidal Edge will be easily replaced by weapons such as 
Heated Fury 2H Hammer and any of the
doesn't have a direct easy upgrade in TotH but if you own 
Atlas of Discovery Expansion then 
Engulfing Vortex Longbow is a much better weapon that doesn't really get replaced unless you have 
Merman Pendant or at level 120 by 
Feather Storm Crossbow.
All drop estimates were done without any Pets,
or
. Having these will significantly increase your drops per hour.
These guides are aimed at optimal Fragment drops per hour.
The Combat Simulator exports can be found here.
Dark Water Level 90 Weapon Farming
Following completion of
, you now have access to
, the penultimate slayer area. These 3 mobs drop fragments for the Level 90 weapons, the highest level, and often most powerful, weapons in the base game that are extremely helpful in completing the following slayer area, as well as the
. These are extremely long grinds, and require quite a bit of preparation. Each weapon requires 100 fragments, and the fragments have a 2% drop rate. That's 5,000 kills on average without any double drop boosts. It should be noted that there is a
Task that requires the player to Kill 5,000 
Ku-tul, 5,000 
Umbora, and 5,000 
Rokken, therefore Item Doubling is not as important for this specific grind unless you wish to skip some of the weapons.
Additionally, there is another
Task that requires 1 of each 
Fragment and rewards 3 of each Fragment, to shorten the grind a little.
After completing the task, or if you simply want your first copies as soon as possible, you should attempt to sneak in as much item doubling into your gear as possible. Using the Combat Simulator to measure your Drops/hr with no deaths is highly recommended.
Order
We recommend acquiring them while fighting each monster as a slayer task, this will require you to turn OFF auto-slayer, and will encourage semi-frequent check-ins. Doing these on task will increase your damage dealt to them from various buffs while also allowing you to complete Master Slayer tasks for the Master Slayer items, if you do not already have them. This will make the order you obtain the final weapons in effectively random, but if you don't want to deal with the hassle of rerolling, or simply want to do them in a specific order, we recommend the following:
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- Ocean Song - Made from
Ocean Song Fragment, dropped by Ku-tul - Tidal Edge - Made from
Tidal Edge Fragment, dropped by Umbora - Alternatively Order: Tidal Edge -> Shockwave -> Ocean Song
Additionally, you should also acquire the pet
whilst doing this grind, if you do not, continue farming whichever mob you kill the fastest on or off task until you get it.
Requirements
There are very few hard requirements beyond the ability to survive and the entry requirement of
, but there are several skills and items that will make this grind significantly easier, and we would be remiss to not mention them
| Suggestion | Benefit |
|---|---|
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|
Less need for DR |
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|
Pillar of Combat |
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|
Dragon Synergies |
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|
For Battleheart |
 Slayer Helmet (Elite)  Slayer Platebody (Elite)
|
15% Flat Slayer Area Effect Negation |
Tidal Edge
We use Standard Magic as Ancient Magicks have a slower kill rate and higher rune cost.
Use of Combination Runes is highly recommended for all methods.
If Atlas of Discovery Expansion is owned, 
Ring of Malice (m) increases the Kills and Tidal Edge Fragment per hour.
Equipment
There are 2 Sets for this. Set 1 (left side) requires:
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- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 101 without any Agility
Set 2 (right side) requires:
- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 79 when all the providedError creating thumbnail: File missingAgility obstacles are active.
- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 89 without any Agility
Mixing and matching between the 2 sets is highly discouraged. Please use the separate sets as they are. Please ignore the (most effective → least effective) text, this is a wiki function of the table.
With 
Cloudburst Staff, use
or
(reduced rune cost).
With Ocean Song, 
Powered Red Crystal, 
Trickery Mirror, or 
Fire Imbued Wand, use
.
- Curse: Error creating thumbnail: File missingAnguish III
- Aurora: Error creating thumbnail: File missingSurge II
- Prayers: Error creating thumbnail: File missingAugury &Error creating thumbnail: File missingBattleheart
- Point of Interest:
Perilous Peaks with 
Glacia Armor or 
The Academia Arcanum with 
Master Slayer Armor. - Potion:
Magic Damage Potion IV
Disclaimer: Gem slot is not required but recommended.
| Slot | Set 1 | Set 2 |
|---|---|---|
 |  Glacia God Helmet |  Slayer Wizard Hat (Master) |
 |  Glacia God Platebody |  Slayer Wizard Robes (Master) |
 |  Glacia God Platelegs | Glacia God Platelegs |
 |  Glacia God Boots | Glacia God Boots |
 |  Glacia God Gloves | Glacia God Gloves |
 |  Skull Cape | Skull Cape |
 |  Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs | Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs |
 |  Ring of Wealth | Ring of Wealth |
 |  Slayer Gem | Slayer Gem |
 |  Cloudburst Staff | Ocean Song / Fire Imbued Wand |
 |  Scaled Shield | |
 |  Slayer Helmet (Master) | Slayer Helmet (Master) |
 |  Magic Hinder Scroll |  Fervor Scroll |
 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Witch  Error creating thumbnail: File missing Dragon | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Witch Error creating thumbnail: File missing Dragon |
Agility
| Slot | Obstacle | Bonuses |
|---|---|---|
| 4 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Coal Stones | -4% Skill XP for all Skills +10% Food Healing Value +20% GP gained from Thieving +3% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 5 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Cliff Balance | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +5% Ranged Accuracy Rating +2 Prayer Point Cost for Prayers +5% Magic Accuracy Rating +5% Melee Accuracy Rating |
| 6 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Lake Swim | +1% Damage Reduction +5% Damage To All Monsters +3% Chance To Preserve Prayer Points |
| 7 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Boulder Trap | -20% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 8 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Raft Building | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +2% Damage To All Monsters +1% Damage Reduction |
| 9 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Water Jump | +3% Mastery XP in all Skills +8% Magic Max Hit +8% Ranged Max Hit +8% Melee Max Hit |
| 10 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Ocean Rafting | +5% Damage To All Monsters +10% Global Slayer Coins (except Item Sales) +5% Auto Eat Efficiency |
| Pillar | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Pillar of Combat | +10% Ranged Evasion -0.2s Monster Respawn Timer +5% Flat Slayer Area Effect Negation +10% Melee Evasion +10% Magic Evasion +5% of Maximum Hit added to Minimum Hit +10 Flat HP Regen |
Drops Per Hour
All one-handed weapons were tested with 
Magicburn Shield in off-hand.
Slayer Coins per hour is only with a Slayer Task.
Estimates of drops per hour.
| Weapon & Armor (Passive) | Tidal Fragments Per Hour |
|---|---|
| Cloudburst Staff & Glacia, ( Master Item)
|
5.09 |
| Cloudburst Staff & Glacia, (  Chapeau Noir)
|
5.03 |
| Ocean Song & Glacia, ( Chapeau Noir)
|
3.97 |
Powered Red Crystal &  Master Gear, ( Chapeau Noir)
|
3.80 |
| Fire Imbued Wand & Master Gear, ( Chapeau Noir)
|
2.92 |
Ocean Song
Equipment
To most efficiently kill Ku-tul you'll use one of
, 
Slayer's Crossbow or a 
Stormsnap.
Use of 
Jadestone Bolts is recommended, 
Emerald Bolts are not recommended as Jadestone Bolts should be easily obtainable at this point in progression from 
Hunting Greater Dragon.
- Prayers: Error creating thumbnail: File missingRigour &Error creating thumbnail: File missingBattleheart
- Potion:
Ranged Assistance Potion IV - Point of Interest:
Bandit Hideout
Disclaimer: Gem slot is not required but recommended.
| Slot | Item (most effective → least effective) | ||
|---|---|---|---|
|  Slayer Cowl (Master) |  Slayer Cowl (Elite) | |
|  Slayer Leather Body (Master) |  Slayer Leather Body (Elite) | |
|  Aeris God Platelegs | ||
|  Aeris God Boots | ||
|  Aeris God Gloves | ||
|  Infernal Cape | ||
|  Deadeye Amulet | Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs |  Elite Amulet of Ranged |
| Ring of Wealth |  Aorpheat's Signet Ring | |
| Slayer Gem |  Agile Gem |  Accuracy Gem |
| Error creating thumbnail: File missing Shockwave |  Slayer's Crossbow |  Stormsnap |
| Scaled Shield |  Dragonfire Shield | |
 | Jadestone Bolts or Ancient Arrows | Emerald Bolts or Dragon Arrows |  Ruby Bolts or Rune Arrows |
|  Chapeau Noir | Ring of Wealth |  Elder Crown |
| Fervor Scroll |  Ranged Hinder Scroll |  Monster Hunter Scroll |
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Agility
| Slot | Obstacle | Bonuses |
|---|---|---|
| 4 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Coal Stones | -4% Skill XP for all Skills +10% Food Healing Value +20% GP gained from Thieving +3% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 5 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Cliff Balance | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +5% Ranged Accuracy Rating +2 Prayer Point Cost for Prayers +5% Magic Accuracy Rating +5% Melee Accuracy Rating |
| 6 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Lake Swim | +1% Damage Reduction +5% Damage To All Monsters +3% Chance To Preserve Prayer Points |
| 7 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Boulder Trap | -20% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 8 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Raft Building | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +2% Damage To All Monsters +1% Damage Reduction |
| 9 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Water Jump | +3% Mastery XP in all Skills +8% Magic Max Hit +8% Ranged Max Hit +8% Melee Max Hit |
| 10 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Ocean Rafting | +5% Damage To All Monsters +10% Global Slayer Coins (except Item Sales) +5% Auto Eat Efficiency |
| Pillar | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Pillar of Combat | +10% Ranged Evasion -0.2s Monster Respawn Timer +5% Flat Slayer Area Effect Negation +10% Melee Evasion +10% Magic Evasion +5% of Maximum Hit added to Minimum Hit +10 Flat HP Regen |
Idle HP, DR and Drops/h
To be able to idle Ku-tul with
, you'll need:
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|
DR | Selected Gear From Equipment Table | Drops Per Hour |
|---|---|---|---|
| 970 | 49 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Shockwave,  Scaled Shield,  Slayer Cowl (Elite),  Slayer Leather Body (Elite),  FEZ
|
2.4 |
| 970 | 50 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Shockwave, Scaled Shield,  Slayer Cowl (Master),  Slayer Leather Body (Master),  Deadeye Amulet
|
2.9 |
| 970 | 49 | Slayer's Crossbow, Scaled Shield, Slayer Cowl (Elite), Slayer Leather Body (Elite), FEZ
|
1.85 |
| 970 | 50 | Slayer's Crossbow, Scaled Shield, Slayer Cowl (Master), Slayer Leather Body (Master), Deadeye Amulet
|
2.3 |
| 1040 | 47 | Stormsnap, Slayer Cowl (Master), Slayer Leather Body (Master), FEZ
|
2.2 |
For Stormsnap you will need to swap
Obstacle 6 to
and
from
to
.
Shockwave
Rokken is by far the most dangerous and is both willing, and able to kill you if you are not extremely careful in your setup. This monster is able to buff itself to an attack speed of 2.2s, and is able to stun you, which increases its damage against you by 30%. Your goal here is either to be able to survive the increased stun damage, or to never actually take the stun damage by having an equivalent or faster attack speed than the monster's fastest speed.
You need to use Melee for this grind, it is highly recommended that you use an Tidal Edge, 
Infernal Claw or 
Ultima Godsword to complete this.
Equipment
This Equipment should work at
(990
) with 56% DR.
- Prayers: Error creating thumbnail: File missingStone Skin &Error creating thumbnail: File missingBattleheart (RequiresError creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 95 otherwise useError creating thumbnail: File missingChivalry)
- Potion:
Diamond Luck Potion > 
Melee Accuracy Potion IV or 
Melee Strength Potion IV - Point of Interest:
The Molten Peak (
Dark Waters Lowers our Slayer Negation so ends up with less kills)
Disclaimer: Gem slot is not required but recommended.
| Slot | Item (most effective → least effective) | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Slayer Helmet (Master) |  Slayer Helmet (Elite) | |
|  Slayer Platebody (Master) |  Slayer Platebody (Elite) | |
|  Terran God Platelegs | ||
|  Terran God Boots | ||
|  Terran God Gloves | ||
| Infernal Cape | ||
| Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs | ||
|  Ring of Blade Echoes | Ring of Wealth | Aorpheat's Signet Ring |
| Slayer Gem | Agile Gem | Accuracy Gem |
|  Ultima Godsword |  Tidal Edge |  Infernal Claw |
|  Earth Layered Shield | ||
| Chapeau Noir | ||
| Fervor Scroll |  Melee Hinder Scroll | Monster Hunter Scroll |
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Agility
| Slot | Obstacle | Bonuses |
|---|---|---|
| 4 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Coal Stones | -4% Skill XP for all Skills +10% Food Healing Value +20% GP gained from Thieving +3% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 5 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Cliff Balance | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +5% Ranged Accuracy Rating +2 Prayer Point Cost for Prayers +5% Magic Accuracy Rating +5% Melee Accuracy Rating |
| 6 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Lake Swim | +1% Damage Reduction +5% Damage To All Monsters +3% Chance To Preserve Prayer Points |
| 7 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Boulder Trap | -20% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 8 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Raft Building | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +2% Damage To All Monsters +1% Damage Reduction |
| 9 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Water Jump | +3% Mastery XP in all Skills +8% Magic Max Hit +8% Ranged Max Hit +8% Melee Max Hit |
| 10 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Ocean Rafting | +5% Damage To All Monsters +10% Global Slayer Coins (except Item Sales) +5% Auto Eat Efficiency |
| Pillar | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Pillar of Combat | +10% Ranged Evasion -0.2s Monster Respawn Timer +5% Flat Slayer Area Effect Negation +10% Melee Evasion +10% Magic Evasion +5% of Maximum Hit added to Minimum Hit +10 Flat HP Regen |
Gear Setups, Prayer & Drops Per Hour
Estimates of drops per hour.
| Melvor Idle version v1.3.1 (Released: 30th October 2024) |
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| Skills: Error creating thumbnail: File missing Farming • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Township • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Woodcutting • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Fishing • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Firemaking • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Cooking • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Mining • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Smithing • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Thieving • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Fletching • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Crafting • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Runecrafting • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Herblore • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Agility • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Summoning • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Astrology • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Alternative Magic • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Cartography • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Archaeology • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Harvesting
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| Other: Error creating thumbnail: File missing Beginners Guide •  Guides • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Bank • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Combat • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Mastery • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Money Making • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Shop •  Easter Eggs •  Pets • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Golbin Raid • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Full Version • Throne of the Herald •  Atlas of Discovery • Error creating thumbnail: File missing Into the Abyss
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| Reference Tables: Items, Equipment, Experience Table, Upgrading Items, Combat Areas, Slayer Areas, Dungeons, Strongholds, The Abyss, Monsters |
