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===Why Clear Dragons Den?===
=Why Clear Dragons Den?=
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons. The {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} can be upgraded into the {{ItemIcon|Scaled Shield}}, a bis ranged shield for a very long time.
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons. The {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} can be upgraded into the {{ItemIcon|Scaled Shield}}, a bis ranged shield for a very long time.


Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.
Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.


===Gear to idle===
=Standard Guide=


Because all enemies in {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} are {{Icon|Melee}}, it is advised to use a {{Skill|Magic}} or {{Icon|Melee}} build due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
Because all enemies in {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} are {{Icon|Melee}}, it is advised to use a {{Skill|Magic}} or {{Icon|Melee}} build due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
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This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}. {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.
This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}. {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.


The simulations are run on a character with lvl 80 in all combat skills except {{Skill|Hitpoints}}.
All the simulations for this guide were done without any [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]]. <br>
If you have {{PetIcon|Finn}} you can subtract 1 {{Skill|Hitpoints|notext=true}} Level from the requirements. <br>
If you have {{PetIcon|Leonardo}} you can subtract 2 {{Skill|Hitpoints|notext=true}} Level from the requirements.


Due to the wide range of cases, it is recommended to use the [[Combat Simulator]] to compare the options tailored for your situation.
According to the [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulation] - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}}. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} with a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.
 
 
==Basic Magic==


The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to use {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} if you have it or {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} otherwise.
This part of the guide will need either {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}} '''or''' {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|66}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|50}} to fully idle.  


According to the [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulation] - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}}. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} with a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.
This build has around 18 clears per hour.




====Basic Magic====
===Gear===


Below is a basic build that needs {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|90}} to create, {{SkillReq|Magic|78}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=870|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
Spell: {{Icon|Earth Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes. <br>
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}} & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Might}}  


The spell of choice is {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes. <br>
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}}  & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Mastery}}
{{Equipment/Recommended
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|style = Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1 = Earth Adept Wizard Hat
|helm1=Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|body1 = Earth Adept Wizard Robes
|neck1=Amulet of Magic
|legs1 = Earth Adept Wizard Bottoms
|body1=Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|boots1 = Earth Adept Wizard Boots
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
|cape1 = Skull Cape
|shield1=Miolite Shield
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Magic
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|ring1=Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Magic Wand (Powerful)
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
|shield1 = (G) Rune Shield
}}
}}


====Melee====
===Agility===
 
Only required if you don't have {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}}.
 
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}
 
===[[Combat Simulator]] Export===
 
[https://pastebin.com/8EF62yz0 Combat Simulator Export]
 
 
==Melee==
 
This part of the guide will need {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|76}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|70}} to fully idle. <br>
You can also upgrade the [[Adamant Equipment]] to [[Rune Equipment]] which will lower the requirements to {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|50}} to fully idle.
 
This build has around 13-15 clears per hour.
 
 
===Gear===


The following build needs {{SkillReq|Attack|70}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=800|type=skill|HP}} to idle. <br>
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}} & {{PrayerIcon|Chivalry}}  
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}} & {{PrayerIcon|Chivalry}}  
{{Equipment/Recommended
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Melee
|style = Melee
|showDR=true
|helm1 = (G) Adamant Helmet
|helm1=(G) Rune Helmet
|body1 = (G) Adamant Platebody
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Defence
|legs1 = (G) Adamant Platelegs
|body1=(G) Rune Platebody
|boots1 = (G) Adamant Boots
|legs1=(G) Rune Platelegs
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|ring1=Silver Diamond Ring
|cape1 = Obsidian Cape
|weapon1=!{{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Defence
|shield1=(G) Rune Shield
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|weapon1 = !{{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}
}}


====Advanced Magic====
===Agility===
For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} and needs {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=800|type=skill|HP}} to idle. <br>
 
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}}  & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Mastery}}
{{AgilityCourseTable
{{Equipment/Recommended
|Cargo Net
|style=Magic
|Rope Jump
|showDR=true
|Pipe Climb
|helm1=Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|Coal Stones
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Defence
|Cliff Balance
|cape1=Skull Cape
|Rocky Waters
|body1=Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|Boulder Trap
|legs1=Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|Raft Building
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Powerful)
|showtotals = false
|shield1=Book of Eli
|showcosts = false
|gloves1=Elementalist Gloves
|showrequirements = false
|ring1=Silver Diamond Ring
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots
}}
}}


===Adjusted Clear Time===
Adjusted clear time is the time it takes to prepare all needed food and runes plus the time of the clear itself.
{| class="wikitable"
! Build
! Adjusted clears per hour
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| 3.7
|-
| Basic Magic
| 4.1
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
| 4.1
|-
| Advanced Magic
| 5.8
|}


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===[[Combat Simulator]] Export===
Adjusted clear time <math>A</math> is calculated by dividing the overall time <math>T_{all}</math> by the number of dungeons <math>D_h</math> cleared per one hour.


The overall time <math>T_{all}</math> is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} <math>T_c</math>, mine essence <math>T_m</math>, and create runes <math>T_r</math>. All measured in seconds. The number of spent {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes is noted as <math>N</math>.
[https://pastebin.com/WLJSz9T2 Combat Simulator Export]


The {{ItemIcon|Crab}} total preparation time is 6.9 seconds per Crab.


The {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with the combination runes is used.


The approximate {{Icon|Adventure}} situation is taken for Runecrafting. In particular, {{ItemIcon|Mining Gloves}} and {{ItemIcon|Elemental Potion IV|Elemental Potion}} are not used. The Runecrafting 95% milestone of the mastery pool is active, and the runes have 99 mastery, meaning that 16 runes are produced per two seconds. No rune preservation or doubling.
=Ancient Relics=


The mining time is the one with the {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Pickaxe}} upgrade - 1.3 seconds. The number of needed essence considers all runes used in crafting: {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|Essence}}, {{ItemIcon|Air Rune|Air}}, {{ItemIcon|Fire Rune|Fire}}, {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune|Smoke}} and {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes.
On top of no [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]] this guide will also assume no [[Relics]].


<math>T_m = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + 1 / 16 + 7 / 16) * 1.3 = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 1.3 + 7 / 16 * 1.3</math>
Much like any other dungeon up to now Manual Eating will be required.


For <math>T_r</math> compared to <math>T_m</math>, the difference is that we don't account for one rune essence in the {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune}} because we don't need to runecraft it separately unlike all other parts of the formula.
This Dungeon will take roughly 10 minutes to complete with the provided setup. 15 minutes if you use an {{ItemIcon|Ice Sword}}. <br>  
And will take roughly 235-325 {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} to complete.


<math>T_r = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 2</math>
===Gear===


You can check out the intermediate steps with the following Google Sheet ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wkic1HnSjkvFuq78UhuIe4BUTxc1EcedhRIcKsXRq0I/edit#gid=0 link]).
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Ultimate Strength}} & {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}}
|title=Details|color=default}}


Advanced Magic is the clear leader, therefore it is recommended to farm the Dragons Den dungeon with the Advanced Magic build.
{{ItemIcon|Ice Sword}} can be used instead of {{ItemIcon|Rune Claw}}
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Melee
|helm1 = (G) Adamant Helmet
|body1 = (G) Adamant Platebody
|legs1 = (G) Adamant Platelegs
|boots1 = (G) Adamant Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Obsidian Cape
|neck1 = Amulet of Calculated Promotion
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Rune Claw
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}


====Food Expenditure====
===[[Combat Simulator]] Export===
The bulk of time is spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. As an example, with some upgrades ({{ItemIcon|Fishing Skillcape}}, {{ItemIcon|Cooking Skillcape}}, 99 mastery, top fishing rod, {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Fishing}}), the fishing and cooking times are the following:
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Food
! Fishing time (s)
! Cooking time (s)
! HP
! HP per second
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}}
| 1.97
| 9.35
| 580
| 51.2
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Crab}}
| 0.96
| 5.95
| 150
| 21.7
|}


In other words, if you prepare Whales instead of Crabs, you would more than double your speed of food preparation, which is a huge boost to the clear time.
[https://pastebin.com/dZYZLT0x Combat Simulator Export]


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