764
edits
Ancient Claw/Guide: Difference between revisions
From Melvor Idle
Add data and conclusion
m (→After-Ship melee: add Glory) |
(Add data and conclusion) |
||
| Line 23: | Line 23: | ||
The ring slot is always occupied with {{ItemIcon|Magical Ring}}. | The ring slot is always occupied with {{ItemIcon|Magical Ring}}. | ||
===Starter magic=== | |||
===Builds=== | |||
====Starter magic==== | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
| Line 86: | Line 89: | ||
The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is <math>400 * 3333 / 3600 = 371 \text{ hours}.</math> | The overall time to get all resources and kill all Pegasi is <math>400 * 3333 / 3600 = 371 \text{ hours}.</math> | ||
===After-Ship melee=== | |||
====After-Ship melee==== | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
| Line 133: | Line 138: | ||
The overall time is <math>159.08 * 3333 / 3600 = 148 \text{ hours}.</math> | The overall time is <math>159.08 * 3333 / 3600 = 148 \text{ hours}.</math> | ||
===After-Volcanic magic=== | |||
====After-Volcanic magic==== | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
| Line 193: | Line 200: | ||
The overall time is <math>137 * 3333 / 3600 = 127 \text{ hours}.</math> | The overall time is <math>137 * 3333 / 3600 = 127 \text{ hours}.</math> | ||
If you swap {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} to {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}}, it will only increase the clear time because your melee defence would plummet, resulting in many more Whales eaten. | If you swap {{ItemIcon|Miolite Shield}} to {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}}, it will only increase the clear time because your melee defence would plummet, resulting in many more Whales eaten. | ||
| Line 213: | Line 222: | ||
As you see, the rune mining and crafting take the bulk of the time, so you might want to use all preservation and doubling bonuses that you have. | As you see, the rune mining and crafting take the bulk of the time, so you might want to use all preservation and doubling bonuses that you have. | ||
===After-Glacia magic=== | |||
====After-Glacia magic==== | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
| Line 266: | Line 277: | ||
The overall time is <math>131.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 121.5 \text{ hours}.</math> | The overall time is <math>131.2 * 3333 / 3600 = 121.5 \text{ hours}.</math> | ||
=== | |||
==Analysis== | |||
Essentially, we want to know which of two sequences is faster: | |||
* Rapier > Claw > Volcano, | |||
* Rapier > Volcano > Claw. | |||
====Full-Sunset Volcano vs Full-Claw Volcano==== | |||
Let's consider the post-Ship and post-Glacia builds. | Let's consider the post-Ship and post-Glacia builds. | ||
The difference between | The difference between their timings of completing the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} is 27 hours. | ||
The Volcano grind of the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient}} set is longer with the with {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} than it is with the Claw. | |||
The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 27 hours. | The question is then if the difference between the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} and the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} in the Volcanic grind is bigger than 27 hours. | ||
We know the length of "Raper > Claw" and "Volcano > Claw" through the info of post-Ship and post-Glacia builds, but we need the data on "Rapier > Volcano" and "Claw > Volcano". | |||
We know the length of "Raper > Claw" and "Volcano > Claw" through the post-Ship and post-Glacia builds, but we need the data on "Rapier > Volcano" and "Claw > Volcano". | |||
We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]]. | We take this data from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#Weapon choice]]. | ||
| Line 326: | Line 340: | ||
|} | |} | ||
As you see from the Difference, even the 50% chance still gives the 4-hour advantage if you get the Claw before the Volcanic Cave. | As you see from the Difference row, even the 50% chance still gives the 4-hour advantage if you get the Claw before the Volcanic Cave. | ||
Therefore, if you farm the Volcanic Cave completely with the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and then farm the Claw with Glacia, the sum of the Volcanic and Claw farm will be larger than if you were to farm the Claw with the Rapier and then doing the Volcanic Cave. And we didn't even consider the time loss of doing the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} with the Rapier instead of the Claw. | |||
However, what if we were to use the [[Ancient Magicks]] as soon as we unlock it? | |||
====Sunset/Ancient Volcano vs Claw/Ancient Volcano==== | |||
It is possible to clear the Volcano using the Ancient Magicks with the build from [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic]]. Pay attention that you need 37% DR with {{Skill|Hitpoints|qty=920|HP}} to idle it. That amount of DR is reached either through the {{Icon|Stone Skin|type=prayer}} prayer or through the {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion II|DR potion II}}. | |||
If we consider that we clear only 100 Volcanoes as a melee build and the rest as the 100-Volcanoes Magic build, then we compare the two sequences: | |||
* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes, | |||
* 100 Rapier Volcanoes + Claw farm with Ancient Magicks. | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|- | |||
! Item | |||
! Adjusted clear time (clears/h) | |||
! 100 clears (h) | |||
|- | |||
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} | |||
| 1.9027 | |||
| 52.56 | |||
|- | |||
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} | |||
| 2.0967 | |||
| 47.69 | |||
|- | |||
| Difference (h) | |||
| | |||
| 4.87 | |||
|} | |||
In other words, the advantage of farming 100 Volcanic Caves with the Claw when compared to the Sunset Rapier is less than 5 hours. | |||
If we consider the rearranged sum of what we compare | |||
* Claw farm with Rapier + 100 Claw Volcanoes, | |||
* Claw farm with Ancient Magicks + 100 Rapier Volcanoes. | |||
and then subtract the second row from the first one, then we would get | |||
<math>27 - 4.87 = 22.13</math> | |||
In other words the sequence where we farm the Claw after the Volcano is faster than the sequence of farming the claw with Rapier by 22 hours. | |||
== Conclusion == | |||
If you have the means to replicate the [[Volcanic Cave/Guide#100-Volcanoes Magic|Ancient Magicks]] build, get everything you need from the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} with it and farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with it. | |||
If you are not going to use the Ancient Magick build to clear the rest of needed Volcanoes, then it might be a good idea to farm the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} with the {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} and clear the Volcano with it. | |||
