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== Training ==
=== Maximum XP ===
Make items that use the most bars, usually Platebodies if they are unlocked. Stop on {{ItemIcon|Rune Platebody}} and make it until {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}}.


==Boosts==
The table below shows how many bars you need to smelt and then use to create items with in order to reach the next threshold. The XP per bar used is the same for all recipes using that particular type of bar, and so to maximize XP gain the recipe chosen should always be the one that uses the most bars per action. {{ItemIcon|Steel Bar|Steel Bars}} are skipped because it triples {{Skill|Mining}} time, and you're likely to overmine something with such short timings. {{ItemIcon|Adamantite Bar|Adamantite Bars}} are skipped because you will miss {{Icon|Mastery}} bonuses for {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|Mithril}} and {{ItemIcon|Runite Bar|Runite}} otherwise. The numbers below are without XP bonuses, except for the {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves}}. With bonuses, the number of required bars is lower.
There are several items you can use to increase the rate at which you train the Crafting skill:
 
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The number of bars was calculated by using the "Melvor Idle Rate & Resource Calculator" by Kidbiz20 from [[Spreadsheets and Theorycrafting]] and then adjusting the number from the column "Resources to Level X" by the fact that we account for the XP from the bars that are need for the items. For instance, to go from level 40 to 55, you need {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|qty=2589|Mithril Bars}} if you craft items. If you account for the XP from the required bars then it's<br>
<math>x\times 50 + x\times35 = 2589\times 50</math>,<br>
<math>x = 1523</math>.
 
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{| class="wikitable"
|- class="headerRow-0"
! rowspan="2"| Level
! rowspan="2"| Item
! colspan="2"| Quantity Required
|- class="headerRow-1"
! Without {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves|Gloves}}
! With {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves|Gloves}}
|-
|1-10  || {{ItemIcon|Bronze Bar}}      || 78 || 49
|-
|10-30 || {{ItemIcon|Iron Bar}}        || 437 || 274
|-
|30-40 || {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar}}      || 1,591 || 995
|-
|40-70 || {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar}}    || 8,241 || 5,151
|-
|70-99 || {{ItemIcon|Runite Bar}}      || 98,375 || 61,485
|}
 
=== Useful Items ===
The idea of this method is to create items that you will use to buy things or to level other skills. This is considerably slower for just {{Skill|Smithing}}, but should save time in the long run.
 
The table below provides notable examples where the bars can be used. For {{Skill|Summoning}} in particular, various tablet recipes make use of {{ItemIcon|Dragonite Bar|Bars|nolink=true}}, {{ItemIcon|Dragon Dagger|Daggers|nolink=true}}, {{ItemIcon|Dragon Battleaxe|Battleaxes|nolink=true}}, and {{ItemIcon|Dragon Shield|Shields|nolink=true}}.


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
! Level
! Bars
! Used where
! How many
|-
|-
! style="width:180px" | Name
|1-10 || {{ItemIcon|Bronze Bar|Bronze}} || {{UpgradeIcon|Basic Furnace}}<br>{{UpgradeIcon|Basic Pot}} || 900
!Description
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Ancient Ring of Skills}} || The Ancient Ring of Skills is a rare drop that can be found while {{Skill|Fishing}}. It increases the XP gained from non-combat skills by 8%.
|-
|-
| {{PetIcon|Firemaking}} || The Firemaking pet provides a +1% boost to XP gained in any skill.
|10-30 || {{ItemIcon|Steel Bar|Steel}} || {{UpgradeIcon|Strong Furnace}}<br>{{UpgradeIcon|Strong Pot}} || {{formatnum:1800}}
|-
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Firemaking Skillcape}} || The Firemaking Skillcape provides a +5% boost to XP gained in any skill when worn.
|30-40 || {{ItemIcon|Silver Bar|Silver}} || [[Upgrading Items|Upgrading]] || {{formatnum:7700}}+
|-
|-
| {{UpgradeIcon|Art of Control}} || After beating the {{ZoneIcon|Fire God Dungeon}} players can purchase Art of Control, which decreases the time per action for Cooking, Firemaking and Smithing by 20%
|40-55 || {{ItemIcon|Gold Bar|Gold}} || [[Upgrading Items|Upgrading]] || {{formatnum:7700}}+
|-
|-
| {{PetIcon|Smithing}} || Once acquired, the Smithing pet gives +10% chance to preserve resources when Smithing.
|40-99
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|Mithril}}<br>{{ItemIcon|Adamantite Bar|Adamant}}<br>{{ItemIcon|Runite Bar|Rune}}<br>{{ItemIcon|Dragonite Bar|Dragon}}
| {{ItemIcon|Smithing Skillcape}} || The Smithing Skillcape Halve [[Coal Ore]] Requirements when smelting bars using the smithing skill.
| {{Skill|Summoning}}  
(Does not affect {{Icon|type=spell|Superheat I|Superheat}} [[Alternative Magic|Alt Magic]] spells).
| Varies
|-
| {{#invoke:Icons|Icon|Seeing Gold Potion|img=Seeing Gold Potion I|type=item}}
| This Smithing Potion can be made at {{SkillReq|Herblore|36}} and gives 10% chance for Silver Ore to also produce a Gold Bar when smithed
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves}}
| +50% Smithing XP when worn, until depleted.
|}
|}


==Acquiring Materials==
==Boosters==
 
===XP===
Theres 2 types of [[Smithing]]. Either you smith bars, or you use the bars to smith gear.
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You mainly get ores from Mining. But some monsters allso drop ores or bars.
Most of the gear you can craft can allso be gotten from monsters, mainly the knights. But dragon armor is harder to get. And you cant get the [[Dragon Helmet]] or [[Dragon Boots]] from anywhere else than [[Smithing]].
 
==Efficient Training==
This is a long one, so here's a
 
===Summary===
 
# Mine 60.000 {{ItemIcon|Mithril Ore}}.
# Get {{SkillReq|Mining|99}}.
# Mine {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence}} or {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} with {{ItemIcon|Mining Skillcape}} to get 240.000 {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}}.
# Make sure to always have {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves}} on at all times, if you are rich you can buy 211 gloves already.
# Smith all your Mithril into {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar}}s. [NOTE: If you have limited funds, do not wear Smithing Gloves for this step]
# Smith all the Bars into {{ItemIcon|Mithril Platebody|Mithril Platebodies}} while wearing Smithing Gloves.
# Sell the Platebodiess for a total loss of {{GP|10.7}}m.
 
After following these steps, you should have enough XP to reach {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}}.
 
===Detailed Guide===
The most efficient training method depends on a lot of things.
 
What is your goal? Is it to get to 99 as fast as possible, or is it to prepare for the future? How are you gonna get your materials? What mining level are you?
 
It is far faster to get your materials from mining rather killing monsters.
 
This guide assumes that you are smelting your bars using the Smithing skill rather than using the {{Icon|type=spell|Superheat IV}} {{Skill|Alt. Magic}} spell, which means your primary resource bottleneck will be {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}}
 
==== Mining Strategy ====
If you haven't started mining yet, this is the route I would advise you take:
 
Start mining and just mine the highest ore until you reach Mithril. If you are actively playing, switching from a depleted ore to the 2nd highest ore you can mine while your highest ore is dead will speed up your mining XP, although this requires substantially more focus.
 
Once you unlock Mithril, you'll want to make sure you mine at least 60,000 Mithril Ore. After you do, push the rest of the way to level 99 mining.
 
Once you reach level 99 Mining, buy the [[Mining Skillcape]]. While wearing the Mining Skillcape, an extra {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore}} will be received for each mining action in addition to the normal ore.
 
For each {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar}}, you need {{ItemIcon|Mithril Ore|qty=1}} and {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=4}}.
 
So for {{ItemIcon|Mithril Bar|qty=60000}}s, you need {{ItemIcon|Mithril Ore|qty=60000}} and {{ItemIcon|Coal Ore|qty=240000}}.
 
Now theres 2 options: 1. Mine [[Coal Ore]], you are now efficiently getting 2 [[Coal Ore]] every time you mine a [[Coal Ore]]. This is the fastest way to get 240.000. <br>
2. Mine [[Rune Essence]]. To get to 99 Runecrafting you will need around 330.000 [[Rune Essence]]. Which if you are ever gonna get 99 Runecrafting you will need to mine at some point, so why not now. When you mine [[Rune Essence]] with the [[Mining Skillcape]] on you still get [[Coal Ore]] every time you mine. <br>
You get baseline 2 [[Rune Essence]] per dig, but due to the [[Mastery]] unlocks you sometimes get double that. <br>
So on the way to getting 330.000 [[Rune Essence]] you get somewhere around 140.000[[Coal Ore]]. <br>
After that you could mine some gold and silver ores that you will need furthere in your adventures to upgrade your gear to (S) and (G). <br>
Full Mithril (g) is 700 [[Silver Bar]] and 1000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
Full Adamant (g) is 1000 [[Silver Bar]] and 2000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
Full Rune (g) is 1600 [[Silver Bar]] and 3000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
Full Dragon (g) is 3200 [[Silver Bar]] and 6000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
Full Ancient (g) is 6000 [[Silver Bar]] and 10000 [[Gold Bar]]. <br>
Using [[Seeing Gold Potion]]s will give your [[Silver Ore]] a chance to also produce a [[Gold Bar]] when smithed. <br>
Or you can just mine [[Coal Ore]] til you reach the goal. <br>
 
'''Now we get back to the smithing part.''' <br>
If you did the math, 60.000 bars only gives 35 exp each bar, and when smithing Mithril gear you only get 50 exp per bar used? That only adds up to just above 5 million exp, and you need 13.034.431 exp to get to 99. <br>
With {{ItemIcon|Smithing Gloves}} the exp for each bar and gear is increased by 50%. <br>
50% on top of 5 million still isn't 13mil. <br>
Thats why we take a look at the [[Mastery]] unlocks. <br>
[[Smithing]] has the most items you can get [[Mastery]] in by a alot. This allso means the [[Mastery]] pool is very big compared to every other skill. <br>
This means its harder to reach those mastery pool checkpoints. But makes it easier to reach the individual item checkpoints. <br>
1 [[Mastery Tokens]] gives 0.1% of [[Mastery]] pool. Thieving has the smallest pool at only 4million compared to [[Smithing]]s at 57,5mil. This means 1 token in [[Smithing]] gives more than 14 times as much [[Mastery]] exp than a thieving one. Along with the chance to get a [[Mastery Tokens]] increases the more milestones you unlocked. And with [[Smithing]] having the most items you unlock, it allso haves the highest and fastest growing chance of you getting a [[Mastery Tokens]]. <br>
So getting to 99 [[Mastery]] in [[Mithril Bar]]s will take you very little time. <br>
 
'''Now what does this do?'''<br>
[[Mastery]] gives you a base chance to preserve resoureces. Meaning you craft a [[Mithril Bar]], but you dont lose your ores and [[Coal Ore]]. Giving you a free bar. <br>
It allso gives you a chance to get 2 bars insted of 1. <br>
So without counting the 25% and 50% [[Mastery]] pool unlocks. When you craft 60.000 [[Mithril Bar]]s you preserve materials so you acctualy craft around 78.000 bars. And when you craft 78.000 bars, you optaine around 105.300 bars in the end due to the chance of getting 2 items insted of 1. <br>
To be most efficient and fastest when using the bars, we pick the platebody. As every item takes the same to craft, and gives the same exp per bar, therefore using 5 bars at once is 5 times faster than if you were to make [[Mithril Dagger]]s insted. <br>
And we only use 1 kind of item, so we make most of our things at 99 [[Mastery]], the faster you can get your [[Mithril Bar]] and Mithril platebody to 99 the more you save.
With your 105.300 bars the same preserve and double thing happends when you craft platebodys. You craft a total platebodys around 27378, thats 6318 more platebodys due to the preserve. And in the end you get around 36.960 platebodys to sell. <br>
Now while we are doing all this, we are wearing [[Smithing Gloves]]. Each glove costs 100.000 GP and gives 500 charges, so each charge costs 200 GP.<br>
You end up doing around 105.378 crafts, making you spend 21.075.600 GP on gloves. <br>
In return you can sell all the Mithril platebodys for 10.348.884 GP getting you around half the money back.<br>
 
If you followed this guide, you are now the proud owner of 99 [[Mining]], 99 [[Runecrafting]] banked, 99 [[Smithing]] and a debt of around 10.7 mil GP.


If you find any errors, or if you know of another mabye more efficient way feel free to hit me up on Discord: Martinmagi#7989
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Latest revision as of 18:18, 6 July 2024

Training

Maximum XP

Make items that use the most bars, usually Platebodies if they are unlocked. Stop on Rune Platebody and make it until

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Level 99

. The table below shows how many bars you need to smelt and then use to create items with in order to reach the next threshold. The XP per bar used is the same for all recipes using that particular type of bar, and so to maximize XP gain the recipe chosen should always be the one that uses the most bars per action. Steel Bars are skipped because it triples

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Mining

time, and you're likely to overmine something with such short timings. Adamantite Bars are skipped because you will miss

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Mastery

bonuses for Mithril and Runite otherwise. The numbers below are without XP bonuses, except for the Smithing Gloves. With bonuses, the number of required bars is lower.

Details
The number of bars was calculated by using the "Melvor Idle Rate & Resource Calculator" by Kidbiz20 from Spreadsheets and Theorycrafting and then adjusting the number from the column "Resources to Level X" by the fact that we account for the XP from the bars that are need for the items. For instance, to go from level 40 to 55, you need 2,589 Mithril Bars if you craft items. If you account for the XP from the required bars then it's

[math]\displaystyle{ x\times 50 + x\times35 = 2589\times 50 }[/math],
[math]\displaystyle{ x = 1523 }[/math].

Level Item Quantity Required
Without Gloves With Gloves
1-10 Bronze Bar 78 49
10-30 Iron Bar 437 274
30-40 Silver Bar 1,591 995
40-70 Mithril Bar 8,241 5,151
70-99 Runite Bar 98,375 61,485

Useful Items

The idea of this method is to create items that you will use to buy things or to level other skills. This is considerably slower for just

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Smithing

, but should save time in the long run. The table below provides notable examples where the bars can be used. For

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Summoning

in particular, various tablet recipes make use of Bars, Daggers, Battleaxes, and Shields.

Level Bars Used where How many
1-10 Bronze
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Basic Furnace

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Basic Pot
900
10-30 Steel
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Strong Furnace

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Strong Pot
1,800
30-40 Silver Upgrading 7,700+
40-55 Gold Upgrading 7,700+
40-99 Mithril
Adamant
Rune
Dragon
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