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Revision as of 19:38, 5 December 2021
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Why clear Dragons Den?
is usually cleared for the
, 
(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces, and optionally 
(U) Ancient D-hide Shield because they are wanted for the
Air and
Water God Dungeons.
Other parts of the 
Ancient set are of little importance because you will use the 
Aeris God Armour for the
.
Gear to idle
Because all enemies in
are
, it is advised to use a
or
build due to the Combat Triangle. This guide assumes that you have
. 
Crabs were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.
The simulations are run on a character with lvl 80 in all combat skills except
.
Due to the wide range of cases, it is recommended to use the Combat Simulator to compare the options tailored for your situation.
The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to use 
Ring of Wealth if you have it or 
Aorpheat's Signet Ring otherwise.
Basic Magic
Below is a basic build that needs
to create,
to wear, and
830to idle. The spell of choice is
.
| Item | Slot | DR% |
|---|---|---|
 Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|
Head | 5% |
 Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|
Body | 5% |
 Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|
Leggings | 5% |
 Fire Expert Wizard Boots
|
Boots | 5% |
 Paladin Gloves
|
Hands | 4% |
 Magic Wand (Powerful)
|
Weapon | 0% |
| Total | 24% | |
This build's clear speed is 16 dungeons per hour with 1060 Crabs and 1205 
Ancient runes.
The adjusted clear time is 1094 seconds per dungeon.
Melee
The following build needs
to create,
to wear, and
780to idle.
| Item | Slot | DR% |
|---|---|---|
 (G) Dragon Helmet
|
Head | 6% |
 (G) Dragon Platebody
|
Body | 6% |
 (G) Dragon Platelegs
|
Leggings | 6% |
 (G) Dragon Boots
|
Boots | 6% |
 (G) Dragon Shield
|
Off-hand | 6% |
| Paladin Gloves
|
Hands | 4% |
 Promotion or  Glory
|
Neck | 0% |
 Sunset Rapier
|
Weapon | 0% |
| Total | 34% | |
The clear speed of this build is 9.8 dungeons per hour with 655 Crabs.
The adjusted clear time is 1091 seconds per dungeon.
With the 
Ancient Claw, it is 10.7 dungeons per hour with 626 Crabs and the adjusted clear time being 970 seconds per dungeon.
Advanced Magic
For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the Ancient Claw and needs
to idle.
| Item | Slot | DR% |
|---|---|---|
| Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|
Head | 5% |
| Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|
Body | 5% |
| Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|
Leggings | 5% |
| Fire Expert Wizard Boots
|
Boots | 5% |
| Magic Wand (Powerful)
|
Weapon | 0% |
 Enchanted Cape
|
Cape | 0% |
 Elite Amulet of Defence
|
Neck | 2% |
 Book of Eli
|
Off-hand | 0% |
 Elementalist Gloves
|
Hands | 0% |
| Total | 22% | |
The clear speed of this build is 20 dungeons per hour with 1000 Crabs and 1170 Ancient runes.
Adjusted clear time
Adjusted clear time is the time it takes to prepare all needed food and runes plus the time of the clear itself.
| Build | Seconds per clear |
|---|---|
| Basic Magic | 1094 |
| Sunset Rapier
|
1091 |
| Ancient Claw
|
970 |
| Advanced Magic | 839 |
| Details |
|---|
| Adjusted clear time [math]\displaystyle{ A }[/math] is calculated by dividing the overall time [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} }[/math] by the number of dungeons [math]\displaystyle{ D_h }[/math] cleared per one hour.
The overall time [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} }[/math] is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the The Error creating thumbnail: File missing Fire Surge with the combination runes is used.
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[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = N * (7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + 1 / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16 }[/math] For [math]\displaystyle{ T_r }[/math] compared to [math]\displaystyle{ T_m }[/math], the only difference is that the number of mined essence is multiplied by 2 instead of 1.3. [math]\displaystyle{ T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 1060 * (7 + 3.825) = 11475 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ T_m = 1205 * 12.675 / 16 = 955 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ T_r = 1205 * 9.75 / 8 = 1469 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 11475 + 955 + 1469 = 17499 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ D_h = 16 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ A_{magic} = T_{all} / D_h = 17499 / 16 = 1094 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 655 * 10.825 = 7091 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 7091 + 0 + 0 = 10691 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ D_h = 9.8 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ A_{rapier} = T_{all} / D_h = 10691 / 9.8 = 1091 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 626 * 10.825 = 6777 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 6777 + 0 + 0 = 10377 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ D_h = 10.7 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ A_{claw} = T_{all} / D_h = 10377 / 10.7 = 970 }[/math] The Advanced Magic build, [math]\displaystyle{ A_{AdvMagic} }[/math]: [math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 1000 * 10.825 = 10825 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ T_m = 1170 * 12.675 / 16 = 927 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ T_r = 1170 * 9.75 / 8 = 1426 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 10825 + 927 + 1426 = 16778 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ D_h = 20 }[/math] [math]\displaystyle{ A_{AdvMagic} = T_{all} / D_h = 16778 / 20 = 839 }[/math] |
As you see, the Advanced Magic build clears faster than the Claw build by 13% and has many options to be improved further.
Therefore, the Advanced Magic build is suggested.
Food expenditure
The bulk of time is spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. As an example,
| Food | Fishing time (s) | Cooking time (s) | HP | HP per second |
|---|---|---|---|---|
 Whale (Perfect)
|
7.875 | 11 | 580 | 30.73 |
| Crab
|
3.825 | 7 | 150 | 13.86 |
In other words, if you prepare Whales instead of Crabs, you would double your food-prep speed, which is a huge boost to the clear time.
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