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Throughout the game the skills level are capped (initially to 10) which means that you will need to carefully manage resources and equipment early on. Completing a dungeon will raise your skill caps and so this is a good first goal. Fishing and cooking are locked out until much later making dungeons considerably harder, and you will need creative ways of getting those foods with higher HP. | Throughout the game the skills level are capped (initially to 10) which means that you will need to carefully manage resources and equipment early on. Completing a dungeon will raise your skill caps and so this is a good first goal. Fishing and cooking are locked out until much later making dungeons considerably harder, and you will need creative ways of getting those foods with higher HP. | ||
Any skill XP earned over the ceiling cap will be deleted, but the mastery and global mastery XP work as normal. | |||
=== Ancient Relics === | |||
Performing any skill will give you a (low) chance of discovering an [[Ancient Relic]]. Whilst it is possible to get all of the [[Ancient Relics]] without completing dungeons, it is not recommended. There is however a guaranteed [[Ancient Relic]] when you reach skill level 20 which is likely to happen after completing your first dungeon. | Performing any skill will give you a (low) chance of discovering an [[Ancient Relic]]. Whilst it is possible to get all of the [[Ancient Relics]] without completing dungeons, it is not recommended. There is however a guaranteed [[Ancient Relic]] when you reach skill level 20 which is likely to happen after completing your first dungeon. | ||
=== Lesser Relics === | |||
While skilling you will be rewarded with [[Lesser Relics]] which can be equipped to give boosts to that skill. One [[Lesser Relic]] will be used for every action. | |||
=== Skill Balancing === | === Skill Balancing === | ||
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Here are some things to consider: | Here are some things to consider: | ||
* '''Thieving:''' Once you get to {{SkillReq|Thieving|25}} you will unlock {{Icon|Assistant Cook|type=thieving}} which will be a great source of food. Also, you can use {{Skill|Thieving}} to get {{GP}} as well as some useful drops or ammo, as there are very few other ways to make money at this time. | * '''Thieving:''' Once you get to {{SkillReq|Thieving|25}} you will unlock {{Icon|Assistant Cook|type=thieving}} which will be a great source of food. Also, you can use {{Skill|Thieving}} to get {{GP}} as well as some useful drops or ammo, as there are very few other ways to make money at this time. | ||
* '''Farming:''' This provides a passive source of food, herbs, and logs. For example, killing {{MonsterIcon|Junior Farmer}} until you have 3 | * '''Farming:''' This provides a passive source of food, herbs, and logs. For example, killing {{MonsterIcon|Junior Farmer}} until you have {{ItemIcon|Potato Seeds|qty=3}} so that you can start {{Skill|Farming}} for extra food. In time, the passive benefits of {{Skill|Farming}} will give you a huge boost. | ||
* '''Astrology:''' Early on, there are some good passive boosts available in {{Skill|Astrology}}. However, the cost of unlocking increases quickly, so early it's a good idea to focus on small boosts, rather than trying to max out . | * '''Astrology:''' Early on, there are some good passive boosts available in {{Skill|Astrology}}. However, the cost of unlocking increases quickly, so early it's a good idea to focus on small boosts, rather than trying to max out . | ||
* '''Summoning:''' This gives a big boost and is needed for the higher strength mobs and dungeons. For example, {{ItemIcon|Golbin Thief}} is a good early summon that will help give the advantage in combat. | * '''Summoning:''' This gives a big boost and is needed for the higher strength mobs and dungeons. For example, {{ItemIcon|Golbin Thief}} is a good early summon that will help give the advantage in combat. | ||
* '''Slayer:''' The [[Slayer tasks]] will reward you with {{Icon|Slayer Coins}} which can be used to purchase {{Skill|Slayer}} re-supplies. These give you a good source of food, prayer and ammo. It is going to be a long time before you unlock {{Skill|Fishing}} and {{Skill|Cooking}}, so these re-supplied will be invaluable. Levelling {{Skill|Slayer}} will also unlock new mobs and dungeons in time. | * '''Slayer:''' The [[Slayer tasks]] will reward you with {{Icon|Slayer Coins}} which can be used to purchase {{Skill|Slayer}} re-supplies. These give you a good source of food, prayer and ammo. It is going to be a long time before you unlock {{Skill|Fishing}} and {{Skill|Cooking}}, so these re-supplied will be invaluable. Levelling {{Skill|Slayer}} will also unlock new mobs and dungeons in time. | ||
== Levels 30+: Places of Interest == | === Levels 30+: Places of Interest === | ||
At this point you will have found some [[Ancient Relics]] which will give you passive benefits. but there is still a lot to discover. | At this point you will have found some [[Ancient Relics]] which will give you passive benefits. but there is still a lot to discover. | ||
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=== Dungeon: Undead Graveyard === | === Dungeon: Undead Graveyard === | ||
Keep skilling all of the newly updated skills until you earn your first | Keep skilling all of the newly updated skills until you earn your first Ancient Relic. You can View Ancient Relics to read more about the skill and it's rewards. Most of the skills will guarantee a relic when you get to skill level 20, and so you should be able to get at least one Ancient Relic for your troubles. You will note too that your combat level has raised by +5 XP which will be needed for the next dungeon. | ||
You will be allocated a random permanent boost to the skill that you happen to be doing at the time, but every boost will give you a big advantage in that skill, even if it doesn't seem that way at first. Continue levelling up and collecting relics until you are able to unlock stronger weapons and armour (melee) or some runes in magic. There is no point starting {{Skill|fletching}} you have unlocked more levels in both woodcutting and fletching as the bronze arrows are not great. Continue chopping wood, and making fire - although you will be losing valuable XP, the mastery perks of {{ | You will be allocated a random permanent boost to the skill that you happen to be doing at the time, but every boost will give you a big advantage in that skill, even if it doesn't seem that way at first. Continue levelling up and collecting relics until you are able to unlock stronger weapons and armour (melee) or some runes in magic. There is no point starting {{Skill|fletching}} you have unlocked more levels in both woodcutting and fletching as the bronze arrows are not great. Continue chopping wood, and making fire - although you will be losing valuable XP, the mastery perks of {{Skill|Firemaking}} will help all of the other skills. If you find any Lesser Relics in your wallet, then these are normally worth equipping to give you a further boost in the skill that you are working on. | ||
=== Undead Graveyard === | === Undead Graveyard === | ||
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This content is part of the Atlas of Discovery Expansion.
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Dungeons
While dungeons are unchanged, the Ancient Relics gamemode requires players to complete dungeons to increase their skill levels, which are otherwise locked to a very low level.
While dungeons can be completed in any order, the following is a suggested order based on the max hit of the boss of each dungeon, including a link to the guide to that dungeon, as well as the combat level cap the player will have for that dungeon.
| Lvl | Dungeon | Guide | Max |
|---|---|---|---|
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| 15 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Undead Graveyard |
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| 20 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Spider Forest |
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| 25 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Frozen Cove |
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| 30 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Deep Sea Ship |
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| 35 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Bandit Base |
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| 40 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Hall of Wizards |
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| 45 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Miolite Caves |
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Skills
Throughout the game the skills level are capped (initially to 10) which means that you will need to carefully manage resources and equipment early on. Completing a dungeon will raise your skill caps and so this is a good first goal. Fishing and cooking are locked out until much later making dungeons considerably harder, and you will need creative ways of getting those foods with higher HP.
Any skill XP earned over the ceiling cap will be deleted, but the mastery and global mastery XP work as normal.
Ancient Relics
Performing any skill will give you a (low) chance of discovering an Ancient Relic. Whilst it is possible to get all of the Ancient Relics without completing dungeons, it is not recommended. There is however a guaranteed Ancient Relic when you reach skill level 20 which is likely to happen after completing your first dungeon.
Lesser Relics
While skilling you will be rewarded with Lesser Relics which can be equipped to give boosts to that skill. One Lesser Relic will be used for every action.
Skill Balancing
When levelling up your skills it is important to consider how each skill interacts with your other skills and abilities. For example, if you level
it will give you access to stronger weapons and armour, but to use this skill you will also not
for the raw materials and a higher combat level to wear the items you have made. Similarly, if you level
to soon then you will also need
(or
) to balance out this skill.
When to fully explore cartography
Early exploration of
is recommended as it unlocks many great rewards. However, it is not strongly recommended that you do not attempt to fully explore
(or use Auto Survey) until you are able to reach
. Surveying has a finite amount of XP available, and any that you waste early on could limit how much of the map you ultimately reveal.
Map creation and upgrades have unlimited XP, but these are not a generous source of XP, and will consume a lot of 
Paper.
Levels 1 to 10: Starting tips
Some helpful things to get you started:
- Township Tasks: Check out the easier Error creating thumbnail: File missingTownship tasks as often these will give useful rewards such as food,
or 
which can be a big boost early on. - Cartography: Survey the POI close to your starting position in Error creating thumbnail: File missingCartography to obtain
50 and 
2000. - Bronze Dagger: Use a
Bronze Dagger to kill 100 
Plant. This will complete the township task and reward you with 2,000 Potatoes. Try to avoid eating your Shrimp as these are best used in the early dungeons. - Runecrafting: Magic is relatively powerful when starting out in this game mode, and Error creating thumbnail: File missingRunecrafting will let you unlock more damaging spells. Mine plenty of
Rune Essence to create runes and obtains staves such as the 
Staff of Earth which give a high damage at relative low levels. You can train Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 10 on the
Cow.
For combat, it is recommended that stick to Plant, 
Chicken and Cow until you have completed the
dungeon.
Levels 11 to 29: Skilling recommendations
After completing a dungeon, you will be offered a randomized selection of skills and level caps to select from. Whilst some choices might be straight-forward, it can be challenging weighing up the benefits and of each skill.
Here are some things to consider:
- Thieving: Once you get to Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 25 you will unlockError creating thumbnail: File missingAssistant Cook which will be a great source of food. Also, you can useError creating thumbnail: File missingThieving to get as well as some useful drops or ammo, as there are very few other ways to make money at this time.
- Farming: This provides a passive source of food, herbs, and logs. For example, killing
Junior Farmer until you have 3 
Potato Seeds so that you can start Error creating thumbnail: File missingFarming for extra food. In time, the passive benefits ofError creating thumbnail: File missingFarming will give you a huge boost. - Astrology: Early on, there are some good passive boosts available in Error creating thumbnail: File missingAstrology. However, the cost of unlocking increases quickly, so early it's a good idea to focus on small boosts, rather than trying to max out .
- Summoning: This gives a big boost and is needed for the higher strength mobs and dungeons. For example, Error creating thumbnail: File missingGolbin Thief is a good early summon that will help give the advantage in combat.
- Slayer: The Slayer tasks will reward you with Error creating thumbnail: File missingSlayer Coins which can be used to purchaseError creating thumbnail: File missingSlayer re-supplies. These give you a good source of food, prayer and ammo. It is going to be a long time before you unlockError creating thumbnail: File missingFishing andError creating thumbnail: File missingCooking, so these re-supplied will be invaluable. LevellingError creating thumbnail: File missingSlayer will also unlock new mobs and dungeons in time.
Levels 30+: Places of Interest
At this point you will have found some Ancient Relics which will give you passive benefits. but there is still a lot to discover.
Here are some suggestions on where to go next:
- Discovering the
Wet Forest at (9, 16) will reward 60 
Oxilyme Seeds, 60 
Mantalyme Seeds and 60 
Lemontyle Seeds which can help you get started in Error creating thumbnail: File missingFarming andError creating thumbnail: File missingHerblore. 
The Runed Battlefield at (7, 15) provides 1,000 
Mind Rune, 1,000 
Chaos Rune and 1,000 
Death Rune which will give added boosts to Error creating thumbnail: File missingMagic for the early bosses.- The
Holy Isles at (17, 17) will reward 100 
Medium Urn and if buried will give you a big Error creating thumbnail: File missingPrayer advantage. - The
Castle of Kings at(21, 16) gives you 
Knight's Cape and 
(G) Mithril Platebody which is a great way to get some early damage reduction (DR). You will need Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 20. - Discovering
Mucky Cave at (22, 18) in Error creating thumbnail: File missingCartography unlocks the Mucky Cave combat area which provides 
Barrier Dust, 
Barrier Sapping Gloves and consumables such as 
Leeching Bolts, 
Vial of Goo, and 
Vial of Acid. - Discovering
Monuments at (6, 11) in Error creating thumbnail: File missingCartography unlocks a dig site. Excavating for the dig site inError creating thumbnail: File missingArchaeology to uncover the
Ancient Stone Tablet which unlocks 
Golem Territory dungeon. You must complete this dungeon to unlock all of the other Dungeons.
Continue defeating dungeons to increase your skill caps and along the way you will discover the Ancient Relics. Good luck!
Beginners Guide
The Ancient Relics game mode is all about discovery. There is no one way to play, and this is by no means intended to be seen as the right way, or indeed the fastest way to level up.
Starting out
Start by
. Chop down 
Normal Logs until you hit
, and when unlocked chop 
Oak Logs. Give the first 25 
Bird Nest your get to township for 5,000, and then open any Bird Nests and keep going until you have at least 3 of any seed (doesn't matter which) and when you have them plant them in farming. Be sure to use 
Weird Gloop so that the plant doesn't die and you get bigger crops. Anything you grow, you can eat, and food is going to be an ongoing challenge until fishing and cooking are unlocked.
Burn the Normal Logs until you hit
, and then burn all of your Oak Logs. You will you get some 
Ash from that can be buried to give you prayer points. At
start burning Oak Logs as these earn slightly more ash. Do not light bonfires as the XP will be lost.
Mine Rune Essence until
is reached and sell any jewels you uncover. Make runes
to gather Mind Rune, 
Air Rune and 
Earth Rune. Using Normal Logs and Earth Rune craft the Staff of Earth.
Mine 
Tin Ore and 
Copper Ore in equal quantities until you hit the
limit. Sell any jewels you unearth, as these will give you some early and much needed . Next, smith 
Bronze Bar. As they become unlocked, smith 1 
Bronze Sword, 1 
Bronze Helmet, 1 
Bronze Boots and 1 
Bronze Gloves. This will be your basic armour set for tackling the
!
Using your bronze gear, fight the Plant until you reach
,
and
. Eat Potatoes as needed to avoid death as even the plant will eventually kill you. You may discover 
Golbin Thief, and if you do it's worth
one time just to unlock this skill. Do this whether the marks unlock, as these will be useful later on. Study
to unlock
and when you have enough 
Stardust, increase the Attack Accuracy Rating to +3%. There is no limit to how much stardust you can get, but it is not a good trade-off to collect too much Stardust as this stage, and the unlocks become disproportionately expensive.
Starting
and
will help you out later on, so these are worth starting as soon as you can. Ideally with some plants growing, and a basic melee build, it's time to hit the +.
Dungeon: Chicken Coop
Combat: Equip your best food and use your strongest magic spell to defeat the chicken coop, then the graveyard, and finally the spider.
Using your 100 Shrimp, it is time to battle the
. The first 5 monsters should be straight forward with your levelled up bronze armour, but eat sparingly if required. For the 
Mumma Chicken you will have a low chance of hitting her, and she will do serious damage to you fairly often. It will be an epic battle, but you should find that you can eventually defeat her by grinding down the hitpoints and eating regularly.
Once Mumma Chicken is defeated, you will gain your first set of boosts. You will be presented with a choice on which items you level up. In general, try to level the skills evenly. The exceptions to this are
,
,
. These are few downsides if these are levelled. Useful skills to upgrade at this early stage are
so that you can unlock iron weapons,
so that you can complete your armour set, and
so that you can earn discovery bonuses. In addition, you will be given one food crate for your trouble.
Depending on which skills you were offered and selected, it is time to consider your options. In your current state, you are much too weak to consider the next dungeon, so your best option now is to level up your newly found skills. In addition, township tasks are a good way to get some early funds, as you will want to open up some more farming slots, and purchase more buildings in
. If all else fails, then consider
as the golden stardust can be used to give some further strength bonused.
Dungeon: Undead Graveyard
Keep skilling all of the newly updated skills until you earn your first Ancient Relic. You can View Ancient Relics to read more about the skill and it's rewards. Most of the skills will guarantee a relic when you get to skill level 20, and so you should be able to get at least one Ancient Relic for your troubles. You will note too that your combat level has raised by +5 XP which will be needed for the next dungeon.
You will be allocated a random permanent boost to the skill that you happen to be doing at the time, but every boost will give you a big advantage in that skill, even if it doesn't seem that way at first. Continue levelling up and collecting relics until you are able to unlock stronger weapons and armour (melee) or some runes in magic. There is no point starting
you have unlocked more levels in both woodcutting and fletching as the bronze arrows are not great. Continue chopping wood, and making fire - although you will be losing valuable XP, the mastery perks of
will help all of the other skills. If you find any Lesser Relics in your wallet, then these are normally worth equipping to give you a further boost in the skill that you are working on.
Undead Graveyard
It is going to be an uphill struggle going from the relatively easy Chicken Coop, to the Undead Graveyard, especially now that the starting supply of Shrimp has been mostly used up already. And it's unlikely that you will have sufficient skill levelling, weapons or food to tackle this dungeon.
Armour/weapons: use skilling to try and increase your armour. This could be through
,
or even
. Use your strengths to your advantage. But remember that you will only be able to equip armour and weapons that are skill level <=15. Purchase at least one Mark of the Golbin summon. Food: continue to chop wood to collect seeds from bird nests. You can eat what you grow, and levelling up farming will give you benefits along the way. You will need
before you can start getting food from the
, so this is not an option until a bit later in the game, but levelling up
is recommended as it gives you money as well as items.
- GP: thieving is probably the easiest way to make money at this stage, and you are free to sell any items that you don't need, but it is best to try and establish an income source early on.
Dungeon: Spider Cave
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