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The overall time <math>T_{all}</math> is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} <math>T_c</math>, mine essence <math>T_m</math>, and create runes <math>T_r</math>. All measured in seconds. The number of spent {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes is noted as <math>N</math>. | The overall time <math>T_{all}</math> is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} <math>T_c</math>, mine essence <math>T_m</math>, and create runes <math>T_r</math>. All measured in seconds. The number of spent {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes is noted as <math>N</math>. | ||
The {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} cooking time is 7 seconds. The {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with the combination runes is used. | The {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} fishing time is 3.825 seconds and cooking time is 7 seconds. | ||
The {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with the combination runes is used. | |||
The approximate {{Icon|Adventure}} mode situation is taken for Runecrafting. In particular, {{ItemIcon|Mining Gloves}} and {{ItemIcon|Elemental Potion IV|Elemental Potion}} are not used. The Runecrafting 95% milestone of the mastery pool is active, and the runes have 99 mastery, meaning that 16 runes are produced per two seconds. No rune preservation or doubling. | The approximate {{Icon|Adventure}} mode situation is taken for Runecrafting. In particular, {{ItemIcon|Mining Gloves}} and {{ItemIcon|Elemental Potion IV|Elemental Potion}} are not used. The Runecrafting 95% milestone of the mastery pool is active, and the runes have 99 mastery, meaning that 16 runes are produced per two seconds. No rune preservation or doubling. | ||
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The {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)|magic}} build, <math>A_{magic}</math>: | The {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)|magic}} build, <math>A_{magic}</math>: | ||
<math>T_c = 1060 * 7 = | <math>T_c = 1060 * (7 + 3.825) = 11475</math> | ||
<math>T_m = 1205 * 12.675 / 16 = 955</math> | <math>T_m = 1205 * 12.675 / 16 = 955</math> | ||
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<math>T_r = 1205 * 9.75 / 8 = 1469</math> | <math>T_r = 1205 * 9.75 / 8 = 1469</math> | ||
<math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + | <math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 11475 + 955 + 1469 = 17499</math> | ||
<math>D_h = 16</math> | <math>D_h = 16</math> | ||
<math>A_{magic} = T_{all} / D_h = | <math>A_{magic} = T_{all} / D_h = 17499 / 16 = 1094</math> | ||
The {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} build, <math>A_{rapier}</math>: | The {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} build, <math>A_{rapier}</math>: | ||
<math>T_c = 655 * | <math>T_c = 655 * 10.825 = 7091</math> | ||
<math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + | <math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 7091 + 0 + 0 = 10691 </math> | ||
<math>D_h = 9.8</math> | <math>D_h = 9.8</math> | ||
<math>A_{rapier} = T_{all} / D_h = | <math>A_{rapier} = T_{all} / D_h = 10691 / 9.8 = 1091</math> | ||
The {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} build, <math>A_{claw}</math>: | The {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} build, <math>A_{claw}</math>: | ||
<math>T_c = 626 * | <math>T_c = 626 * 10.825 = 6777</math> | ||
<math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + | <math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 6777 + 0 + 0 = 10377</math> | ||
<math>D_h = 10.7</math> | <math>D_h = 10.7</math> | ||
<math>A_{claw} = T_{all} / D_h = | <math>A_{claw} = T_{all} / D_h = 10377 / 10.7 = 970</math> | ||
<math></math> | <math></math> | ||
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<math>A_{MidMagic}</math>: | <math>A_{MidMagic}</math>: | ||
<math>T_c = 1000 * | <math>T_c = 1000 * 10.825 = 10825</math> | ||
<math>T_m = 1170 * 12.675 / 16 = 927</math> | <math>T_m = 1170 * 12.675 / 16 = 927</math> | ||
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<math>T_r = 1170 * 9.75 / 8 = 1426</math> | <math>T_r = 1170 * 9.75 / 8 = 1426</math> | ||
<math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + | <math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 10825 + 927 + 1426 = 16778</math> | ||
<math>D_h = 20</math> | <math>D_h = 20</math> | ||
<math>A_{MidMagic} = T_{all} / D_h = | <math>A_{MidMagic} = T_{all} / D_h = 16778 / 20 = 839</math> | ||
As you see, the MidMagic build clears faster than the Claw build by 13% and has many options to be improved further. | As you see, the MidMagic build clears faster than the Claw build by 13% and has many options to be improved further. | ||
Therefore, the magic build is suggested. | Therefore, the magic build is suggested. | ||
In addition, you can notice that the bulk of time is actually spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. For instance, | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|- | |||
! Food | |||
! Fishing time (s) | |||
! Cooking time (s) | |||
! HP | |||
! HP per second | |||
|- | |||
| {{ItemIcon|Whale (Perfect)}} | |||
| 7.875 | |||
| 11 | |||
| 580 | |||
| 30.73 | |||
|- | |||
| {{ItemIcon|Crab}} | |||
| 3.825 | |||
| 7 | |||
| 150 | |||
| 13.86 | |||
|} | |||
In other words, if you prepare Whales instead of Crabs, you would double your food-prep speed, which is a huge boost to the clear time. | |||
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{{Menu}} | {{Menu}} | ||
Revision as of 18:58, 2 December 2021
| This page was last updated for (v1.0). |
Why clear Dragons Den?
is usually cleared for the
, 
(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces, and optionally 
(U) Ancient D-hide Shield because they are wanted for the
Air and
Water God Dungeons.
Other parts of the 
Ancient set are of little importance because you will use the 
Aeris God Armour for the
.
Gear to idle
Because all enemies in
are
, it is advised to use a
or
build due to the Combat Triangle. This guide assumes that you have
. The simulations are run on a character with lvl 80 in all combat skills except
.
Due to the wide range of cases, it is recommended to use the Combat Simulator to compare the options tailored for your situation.
The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to put 
Ring of Wealth here if you have it or 
Aorpheat's Signet Ring otherwise.
Magic
Below is a basic build that needs
to create,
to wear, and
830to idle. The spell of choice is
.
| Item | Slot | DR% |
|---|---|---|
 Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|
Head | 5% |
 Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|
Body | 5% |
 Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|
Leggings | 5% |
 Fire Expert Wizard Boots
|
Boots | 5% |
 Paladin Gloves
|
Hands | 4% |
 Magic Wand (Powerful)
|
Weapon | 0% |
| Total | 24% | |
This build's clear speed is 16 dungeons per hour with 1060 
Crabs and 1205 
Ancient runes.
The adjusted clear time is 841 seconds per dungeon.
Melee
The following build needs
to create,
to wear, and
780to idle.
| Item | Slot | DR% |
|---|---|---|
 (G) Dragon Helmet
|
Head | 6% |
 (G) Dragon Platebody
|
Body | 6% |
 (G) Dragon Platelegs
|
Leggings | 6% |
 (G) Dragon Boots
|
Boots | 6% |
 (G) Dragon Shield
|
Off-hand | 6% |
| Paladin Gloves
|
Hands | 4% |
 Amulet of Calculated Promotion
|
Neck | 0% |
 Sunset Rapier
|
Weapon | 0% |
| Total | 34% | |
The clear speed of this build is 9.8 dungeons per hour with 655 Crabs.
The adjusted clear time is 835 seconds per dungeon.
With the 
Ancient Claw, it is 10.7 dungeons per hour with 626 Crabs and the adjusted clear time being 746 seconds per dungeon.
Adjusted clear time
Adjusted clear time [math]\displaystyle{ A }[/math] is calculated by dividing the overall time [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} }[/math] by the number of dungeons [math]\displaystyle{ D_h }[/math] cleared per one hour.
The overall time [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} }[/math] is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the Crabs [math]\displaystyle{ T_c }[/math], mine essence [math]\displaystyle{ T_m }[/math], and create runes [math]\displaystyle{ T_r }[/math]. All measured in seconds. The number of spent Ancient runes is noted as [math]\displaystyle{ N }[/math].
The Crabs fishing time is 3.825 seconds and cooking time is 7 seconds.
The
with the combination runes is used.
The approximate 
Adventure mode situation is taken for Runecrafting. In particular, 
Mining Gloves and 
Elemental Potion are not used. The Runecrafting 95% milestone of the mastery pool is active, and the runes have 99 mastery, meaning that 16 runes are produced per two seconds. No rune preservation or doubling.
The mining time is the one with the
upgrade - 1.3 seconds. The number of needed essence considers all runes used in crafting: 
Essence, 
Air, 
Fire, 
Smoke and Ancient runes.
[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = N * (7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + 1 / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16 }[/math]
For [math]\displaystyle{ T_r }[/math] compared to [math]\displaystyle{ T_m }[/math], the only difference is that the number of mined essence is multiplied by 2 instead of 1.3.
[math]\displaystyle{ T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8 }[/math]
The magic build, [math]\displaystyle{ A_{magic} }[/math]:
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 1060 * (7 + 3.825) = 11475 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = 1205 * 12.675 / 16 = 955 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_r = 1205 * 9.75 / 8 = 1469 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 11475 + 955 + 1469 = 17499 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ D_h = 16 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ A_{magic} = T_{all} / D_h = 17499 / 16 = 1094 }[/math]
The rapier build, [math]\displaystyle{ A_{rapier} }[/math]:
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 655 * 10.825 = 7091 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 7091 + 0 + 0 = 10691 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ D_h = 9.8 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ A_{rapier} = T_{all} / D_h = 10691 / 9.8 = 1091 }[/math]
The claw build, [math]\displaystyle{ A_{claw} }[/math]:
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 626 * 10.825 = 6777 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 6777 + 0 + 0 = 10377 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ D_h = 10.7 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ A_{claw} = T_{all} / D_h = 10377 / 10.7 = 970 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ }[/math]
For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the Ancient Claw and needs
to idle.
| Item | Slot | DR% |
|---|---|---|
| Fire Expert Wizard Hat
|
Head | 5% |
| Fire Expert Wizard Robes
|
Body | 5% |
| Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms
|
Leggings | 5% |
| Fire Expert Wizard Boots
|
Boots | 5% |
| Magic Wand (Powerful)
|
Weapon | 0% |
 Enchanted Cape
|
Cape | 0% |
 Elite Amulet of Defence
|
Neck | 2% |
 Book of Eli
|
Off-hand | 0% |
 Elementalist Gloves
|
Hands | 0% |
| Total | 22% | |
The clear speed of this build is 20 dungeons per hour with 1000 Crabs and 1170 Ancient runes.
[math]\displaystyle{ A_{MidMagic} }[/math]:
[math]\displaystyle{ T_c = 1000 * 10.825 = 10825 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = 1170 * 12.675 / 16 = 927 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_r = 1170 * 9.75 / 8 = 1426 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 10825 + 927 + 1426 = 16778 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ D_h = 20 }[/math]
[math]\displaystyle{ A_{MidMagic} = T_{all} / D_h = 16778 / 20 = 839 }[/math]
As you see, the MidMagic build clears faster than the Claw build by 13% and has many options to be improved further.
Therefore, the magic build is suggested.
In addition, you can notice that the bulk of time is actually spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. For instance,
| Food | Fishing time (s) | Cooking time (s) | HP | HP per second |
|---|---|---|---|---|
 Whale (Perfect)
|
7.875 | 11 | 580 | 30.73 |
| Crab
|
3.825 | 7 | 150 | 13.86 |
In other words, if you prepare Whales instead of Crabs, you would double your food-prep speed, which is a huge boost to the clear time.
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