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* {{SkillReq|Magic|110}}  
* {{SkillReq|Magic|110}}  
* {{SkillReq|Prayer|110}}  
* {{SkillReq|Prayer|110}}  
* {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|110}}
* {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|114}}
* {{SkillReq|Agility|80}}
* {{SkillReq|Agility|80}}
* {{SkillReq|Astrology|80}} - Mastered all the combat [[Astrology#Constellations|Constellations]].
* {{SkillReq|Summoning|90}}
* {{SkillReq|Summoning|90}}
* {{SkillReq|Cartography|90}}    
* {{SkillReq|Cartography|90}} '''or'''
** '''OR''' {{SkillReq|Herblore|90}} with {{Icon|Mastery}} 90 in {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion}}
** {{SkillReq|Herblore|90}} with {{Icon|Mastery}} 90 in {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion}}
*** {{SkillReq|Cartography|35}} would be advised if you have {{AoD}}[[Atlas of Discovery Expansion]] for {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}}
** {{SkillReq|Cartography|35}} would be advised if you have {{AoD}}[[Atlas of Discovery Expansion]] for {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}}.
* {{ItemIcon|Centaur}} Mark Level 4
* {{ItemIcon|Centaur}} Mark Level 4
* {{ItemIcon|Dragon}} Mark Level 3
* {{ItemIcon|Dragon}} Mark Level 3
===Things that greatly impact kph===
* {{SkillReq|Agility|120}} - Will allow for less skill levels in {{Skill|Hitpoints|Hitpoints}} and switch the Point of Interest to {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}} - Increases KPH by about 2.
** If {{SkillReq|Prayer|118}} & {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|117}} are also obtained on top of {{Skill|Agility|Agility}} - Swap  {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}} back to {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}} and change {{PrayerIcon|Holy Aegis}} to {{PrayerIcon|Battleborn}} - Increases KPH by about 1.5.
* {{SkillReq|Astrology|120}} - Max out [[Ashtar]] - Increases KPH by about 1.3.
* Collecting all base-game [[Pets]] - Increases KPH by about 0,5.
* All these skills:
** {{SkillReq|Woodcutting|118}} - For {{ItemIcon|Mystic Logs}}
** {{SkillReq|Mining|112}} - For {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Ore}}
** {{SkillReq|Smithing|115}} - For {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Bar}}
** {{SkillReq|Fletching|115}} - For {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Crossbow}} with {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Bolts}} - Increases KPH by 3.
** or
** {{SkillReq|Woodcutting|112}} - For {{ItemIcon|Red Oak Logs}}
** {{SkillReq|Mining|115}} - For {{ItemIcon|Divinite Ore}}
** {{SkillReq|Smithing|119}} - For {{ItemIcon|Divine Crossbow Head}}
** {{SkillReq|Fletching|110}} - For {{ItemIcon|Divine Crossbow}} with {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Bolts}} - Increases KPH by 4.
All these changes add up to about 10-11 KPH.


===Recommended Buffs===
===Recommended Buffs===
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* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}}
* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}}
* {{PetIcon|Leonardo}} or {{PetIcon|Erran}} will be required for this setup (just need 1 of the 2), if neither are owned you will need {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}} instead of {{PrayerIcon|Battleheart}}. No other pets are assumed (unless listed).
* {{PetIcon|Leonardo}} & {{PetIcon|Erran}} will be required for this setup. Please don't attempt it without them.


===Astrology===
===Astrology===
As many combat bonuses from {{Skill|Astrology}} constellations are recommended, but not required. In total, Astrology serves as a massive buff to combat and will make the fight easier. The main bonuses are:
As many combat bonuses from {{Skill|Astrology}} constellations are recommended. In total, Astrology serves as a massive buff to combat and will make the fight easier. The main bonuses are:
* +5 Hidden Levels for {{Skill|Melee}}{{Skill|Ranged}}{{Skill|Magic}}
* +5 Hidden Levels for {{Skill|Melee}}{{Skill|Ranged}}{{Skill|Magic}}
**{{Icon|Iridan|type=constellation}}, {{Icon|Terra|type=constellation}}, {{Icon|Syllia|type=constellation}}, and {{Icon|Arachi|type=constellation}}. The +5 hidden {{Skill|Defence}} levels in {{Icon|Tellus|type=constellation}} are redundant.
**{{Icon|Iridan|type=constellation}}, {{Icon|Terra|type=constellation}}, {{Icon|Syllia|type=constellation}}, and {{Icon|Arachi|type=constellation}}. The +5 hidden {{Skill|Defence}} levels in {{Icon|Tellus|type=constellation}} are redundant.
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If your {{Skill|Agility|Agility}} is not above level 99 you'll need {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|113}} and swap {{PrayerIcon|Battleheart}} for {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}} to safely idle this dungeon.


==Idle Gear==
==Idle Gear==
* This setup was tweaked to be able to idle Spider Queen at reasonable levels & gear and assumes all recommended levels and buffs. Optimizing the kills per hour is too dependent on your stats and available gear, use the [[Combat Simulator]] to find what is optimal for you. This setup clears around 7.5 {{ZoneIcon|Lair of the Spider Queen}} per hour.
* This setup was tweaked for the absolute minimum to idle Spider Queen at reasonable levels & gear and assumes all recommended levels and buffs. This starts off with only 2 kills per hour, there's several way to [[Lair of the Spider Queen/Guide#Things that greatly impact kph|increase the KPH]].
* {{ItemIcon|Corundum Crossbow}} performs better than {{ItemIcon|Shockwave}}. If you are unable to obtain the {{ItemIcon|Divine Crossbow}}, use the highest level crossbow you can obtain.
* If you are unable to obtain {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Bolts}}, use the highest level bolts you can obtain.
* If {{AoD}}[[Atlas of Discovery Expansion]] is owned, you can replace {{ItemIcon|Fervor Scroll}} for {{ItemIcon|Power Crystals}} and/or replace {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Gloves}} for {{ItemIcon|Eradicating Gloves (m)}} for quite substantially increased kph.
* If {{AoD}}[[Atlas of Discovery Expansion]] is owned, you can replace {{ItemIcon|Fervor Scroll}} for {{ItemIcon|Power Crystals}} and/or replace {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Gloves}} for {{ItemIcon|Eradicating Gloves (m)}} for quite substantially increased kph.


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* For complete safety in hardcore mode, apply the following changes:
* For complete safety in hardcore mode, apply the following changes:
** Level {{Skill|Hitpoints|Hitpoints}} to 120
** Level {{Skill|Hitpoints|Hitpoints}} to 120.
** Level {{Skill|Agility}} to 120.
** The Point of Interest from {{AoD}}[[Atlas of Discovery Expansion]] is not required.
** Use the Prayers {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}} & {{PrayerIcon|Holy Aegis}}
** Gather the following [[Pets]] {{PetIcon|Leonardo}}, {{PetIcon|Erran}}, {{PetIcon|Finn}}, {{PetIcon|Kiko}}.
** Gather the following [[Pets]] {{PetIcon|Leonardo}}, {{PetIcon|Erran}}, {{PetIcon|Finn}}, {{PetIcon|Kiko}}.
** Replace {{ItemIcon|Ring of Power}} with {{ItemIcon|Palladium Runestone Ring}}. Make sure it is in your passive slot and not your ring slot since it has -1% DR, but when in the passive slot, you do not lose 1% DR.
** Replace {{ItemIcon|Ring of Power}} with {{ItemIcon|Palladium Runestone Ring}}. Make sure it is in your passive slot and not your ring slot since it has -1% DR, but when in the passive slot, you do not lose 1% DR.
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|boots1 = Frost Walker Boots
|boots1 = Frost Walker Boots
|gloves1 = Glacia God Gloves
|gloves1 = Glacia God Gloves
|cape1 = Weakness Exploiter Cape
|cape1 = Infernal Cape
|neck1 = Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs
|neck1 = Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs
|ring1 = Wasteful Ring
|ring1 = Wasteful Ring
|ammo1 = Meteorite Bolts
|ammo1 = Jadestone Bolts
|gem1 = Agile Gem
|gem1 = Agile Gem
|weapon1 = Shockwave
|weapon1 = Shockwave

Revision as of 18:49, 26 May 2024

This page was last updated for (v1.2.2).

Why Idle This?

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    Lair of the Spider Queen
    is mainly cleared for the Royal Toxins Spear as it provides very generous damage boosts, and also provides an additional damage boost for when the enemy is poisoned.
  • The only other drop you can get from the dungeon is Spider Queen Eggs used for making the Spider Summoning Tablets.
  • The pet from the dungeon, Webbie also reduces your attack speed by 0.1s, which is incredibly useful in many ways.

Dungeon Mechanics

Like most dungeons,

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Lair of the Spider Queen

has many weaker enemies before sending the strongest enemy at you, which in this case is Spider Queen. Normally, you would pick a specific combat style to fight the enemies to get the full advantage of the combat triangle, but in this dungeon, you can't. The Spider Queen has a unique mechanic where they will have a random combat triangle each time. Similarly, the 19 weaker enemies before it are randomised in a way which again, makes the combat styles random. This part isn't very important since the heavy hitter in the dungeon is the last enemy. Since the random combat style gimmick is the only reason this dungeon is difficult to many, it is actually rather simple to manually clear.

Stats and Buffs

Minimum Recommended Levels

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    Level 100
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    Level 110
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    Level 110
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    Level 110
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    Level 114
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    Level 80
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    Level 80
    - Mastered all the combat Constellations.
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    Level 90
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    Level 90
    or
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    Centaur
    Mark Level 4
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    Dragon
    Mark Level 3

Things that greatly impact kph

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    Level 120
    - Will allow for less skill levels in
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    Hitpoints
    and switch the Point of Interest to Bandit Hideout - Increases KPH by about 2.
    • If
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      Level 118
      &
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      Level 117
      are also obtained on top of
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      Agility
      - Swap Bandit Hideout back to The Shimmering Oasis and change
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      Holy Aegis
      to
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      Battleborn
      - Increases KPH by about 1.5.
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    Level 120
    - Max out Ashtar - Increases KPH by about 1.3.
  • Collecting all base-game Pets - Increases KPH by about 0,5.
  • All these skills:


All these changes add up to about 10-11 KPH.


Recommended Buffs

Astrology

As many combat bonuses from

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Astrology

constellations are recommended. In total, Astrology serves as a massive buff to combat and will make the fight easier. The main bonuses are:

  • +5 Hidden Levels for
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    Melee
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    Ranged
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    Magic
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      Iridan
      ,
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      Terra
      ,
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      Syllia
      , and
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      Arachi
      . The +5 hidden
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      Defence
      levels in
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      Tellus
      are redundant.
  • 5% reduced Attack Interval and Enemy Damage Reduction decreased by 5%, from
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    Ashtar

Agility


Idle Gear

This particular build only works in standard mode. This exact setup is not completely safe in hardcore or adventure mode due to the harder Combat Triangle

Always make sure to double-check your setup in the Combat Simulator.