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This is the first {{TotH}}[[Throne of the Herald Expansion]] dungeon where an idle setup for the first clear is near '''impossible'''. Stats will be capped at 108 and you'll need 110 for the next big upgrades. Seeing as focusing on skilling should be avoided as much as possible, dungeon/dropped gear is as good as it gets. | This is the first {{TotH}}[[Throne of the Herald Expansion]] dungeon where an idle setup for the first clear is near '''impossible'''. Stats will be capped at 108 and you'll need 110 for the next big upgrades. Seeing as focusing on skilling should be avoided as much as possible, dungeon/dropped gear is as good as it gets. | ||
Revision as of 11:14, 8 June 2024
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This content is part of the Throne of the Herald Expansion.
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Why Idle This?
- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLair of the Spider Queen is mainly cleared for the
Royal Toxins Spear as it provides very generous damage boosts, and also provides an additional damage boost for when the enemy is poisoned. - The only other drop you can get from the dungeon is
Spider Queen Eggs used for making the 
Spider Summoning Tablets. - The pet from the dungeon,
Webbie also reduces your attack speed by 0.1s, which is incredibly useful in many ways.
Dungeon Mechanics
Like most dungeons,
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Lair of the Spider Queen has many weaker enemies before sending the strongest enemy at you, which in this case is 
Spider Queen. Normally, you would pick a specific combat style to fight the enemies to get the full advantage of the combat triangle, but in this dungeon, you can't. The Spider Queen has a unique mechanic where they will have a random combat triangle each time. Similarly, the 19 weaker enemies before it are randomised in a way which again, makes the combat styles random. This part isn't very important since the heavy hitter in the dungeon is the last enemy. Since the random combat style gimmick is the only reason this dungeon is difficult to many, it is actually rather simple to manually clear.
Minimum Recommended Levels
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- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 80 - Mastered all the combat Constellations.
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- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 35 Would be advised for
The Shimmering Oasis. - Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 90 To visit (31,17)
The Sand-Covered Treasure for 1,000 
Damage Reduction Potion IV which you can turn in for 5,000 Damage Reduction Potion IV with Error creating thumbnail: File missingTownship Hard Task 15. - Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 90 To craft Damage Reduction Potion IV - alternative to Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 90.
- Error creating thumbnail: File missingCentaur Mark Level 4
- Error creating thumbnail: File missingDragon Mark Level 3
Things that greatly impact KPH
- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 120 - Will allow for less skill levels inError creating thumbnail: File missingHitpoints and switch the Point of Interest to
Bandit Hideout - Increases KPH by about 2.
- If Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 118 &Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 117 are also obtained on top ofError creating thumbnail: File missingAgility - Swap Bandit Hideout back to The Shimmering Oasis and change Error creating thumbnail: File missingHoly Aegis toError creating thumbnail: File missingBattleborn - Increases KPH by about 1.5.
- If
- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 120 - Max out Ashtar - Increases KPH by about 1.3.
- Collecting all base-game Pets - Increases KPH by about 0,5.
Eradicating Gloves (m) - Direct upgrade to 
Glacia God Gloves - Increases KPH by about 1.
Power Crystals - Direct Upgrade to 
Fervor Scroll - Increases KPH by anout 1.- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 118,Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 112,Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 115,Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 115 - for
Meteorite Crossbow and 
Meteorite Bolts - Increases KPH by about 3. - Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 112,Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 115,Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 119,Error creating thumbnail: File missingLevel 110 - for
Divine Crossbow and Meteorite Bolts - Increases KPH by about 4.
All these changes add up to about 12-13 KPH.
Recommended Buffs
- Prayers: Error creating thumbnail: File missingBattleheart &Error creating thumbnail: File missingHoly Aegis
- Potion: Damage Reduction Potion IV
- Point of Interest: The Shimmering Oasis
- Error creating thumbnail: File missingLeonardo &Error creating thumbnail: File missingErran will be required for this setup. Please don't attempt it without them.
Astrology
As many combat bonuses from
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Astrologyconstellations are recommended. In total, Astrology serves as a massive buff to combat and will make the fight easier. The main bonuses are:
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- 5% reduced Attack Interval and Enemy Damage Reduction decreased by 5%, from Error creating thumbnail: File missingAshtar
Agility
| Slot | Obstacle | Bonuses |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Cargo Net | +3% Global GP (except Item Sales) +2% Fishing Mastery XP |
| 2 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Monkey Bars | -4% Firemaking Interval |
| 3 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Pipe Climb | +5% Melee Evasion +5% Melee Max Hit |
| 4 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Coal Stones | -4% Skill XP for all Skills +10% Food Healing Value +20% GP gained from Thieving +3% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 5 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Cliff Balance | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +5% Ranged Accuracy Rating +2 Prayer Point Cost for Prayers +5% Magic Accuracy Rating +5% Melee Accuracy Rating |
| 6 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Rocky Waters | +50 Maximum Hitpoints |
| 7 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Boulder Trap | -20% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 8 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Raft Building | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +2% Damage To All Monsters +1% Damage Reduction |
| 9 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Ice Jump | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +5% Food Healing Value +5% Chance to Double Items Globally +10 Mining Node HP +10% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 10 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Ocean Rafting | +5% Damage To All Monsters +10% Global Slayer Coins (except Item Sales) +5% Auto Eat Efficiency |
| 11 |  Error creating thumbnail: File missing Frozen Maze | +1% Damage Reduction -0.1s Monster Respawn Timer -3 Prayer Point Cost for Prayers -20% Rune Preservation -20% Ammo Preservation |
| 12 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Boulder Balance | -20% Global Accuracy +5% of Maximum Hit added to Minimum Hit -0.1s Attack Interval |
| 13 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Rope Trap | -10% Mastery XP for Melvor Realm only +8% Damage To Bosses |
| 14 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Freezing Climb | +30% Accuracy Rating +30% Global Evasion -150% GP from Combat -6% Chance To Double Loot in Combat +15% Damage to Monsters in Dungeons |
| 15 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Freezing Rafting | -10% Cooking Interval +3% Auto Eat Threshold +15% Auto Eat Efficiency -20% base primary resource quantity gained in Farming |
| Pillar | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Pillar of Combat | +10% Ranged Evasion -0.2s Monster Respawn Timer +5% Flat Slayer Area Effect Negation +10% Melee Evasion +10% Magic Evasion +5% of Maximum Hit added to Minimum Hit +10 Flat HP Regen |
| Elite Pillar | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Elite Pillar of Expertise | +8% Mastery XP for Melvor Realm only -3% Interval for all Non-Combat Skills +40% Global GP (except Item Sales) +8% Chance to Double Items Globally |
Idle Gear
- This setup was tweaked for the absolute minimum to idle Spider Queen at reasonable levels & gear and assumes all recommended levels and buffs. This starts off with only 2 kills per hour, there's several way to increase the KPH.
- If Atlas of Discovery Expansion is owned, you can replace Fervor Scroll for Power Crystals and/or replace Glacia God Gloves for Eradicating Gloves (m) for quite substantially increased kph.
This particular build only works in standard mode. This exact setup is not completely safe in hardcore or adventure mode due to the harder Combat Triangle
- For complete safety in hardcore mode, apply the following changes:
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- Level Error creating thumbnail: File missingAgility to 120.
- The Point of Interest from Atlas of Discovery Expansion is not required.
- Use the Prayers Error creating thumbnail: File missingStone Skin &Error creating thumbnail: File missingHoly Aegis
- Gather the following Pets Error creating thumbnail: File missingLeonardo,Error creating thumbnail: File missingErran,
Finn, the Cat, 
Kiko. - Replace
Ring of Power with 
Palladium Runestone Ring. Make sure it is in your passive slot and not your ring slot since it has -1% DR, but when in the passive slot, you do not lose 1% DR. - Replace
(P) Corundum Shield with 
(P) Augite Shield. - Replace Glacia God Gloves with
(U) Elderwood Vambraces.
- Level
Always make sure to double-check your setup in the Combat Simulator.
Disclaimer: Gem slot is not required but recommended.
| Slot | Item |
|---|---|
 |  Lightning Aura Helmet |
 |  Bundled Protection Body |
 |  Perfect Sight Legs |
 |  Frost Walker Boots |
 |  Aeris God Gloves |
 |  Infernal Cape |
 |  Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs |
 |  Wasteful Ring |
 |  Agile Gem |
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 |  (P) Corundum Shield |
 |  Jadestone Bolts |
 |  Ring of Power |
 |  Fervor Scroll |
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Ancient Relics Guide
This is the first Throne of the Herald Expansion dungeon where an idle setup for the first clear is near impossible. Stats will be capped at 108 and you'll need 110 for the next big upgrades. Seeing as focusing on skilling should be avoided as much as possible, dungeon/dropped gear is as good as it gets.
You will need to Manually Eat this dungeon and the suggested setup does assume this.
Tested with Relics:
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Skills
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Gear
Engulfing Vortex Longbow/
Ancient Arrows is suggested as a swap to the
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Shockwave/
Shield of Ranged Power.
Prayers:
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Stone Skinand
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Battleheart
Potion: Damage Reduction Potion IV
Point of Interest: Bandit Hideout
| Slot | Item |
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|  Aeris God Helmet |
|  Aeris God Platebody |
|  Aeris God Platelegs |
|  Aeris God Boots |
| Aeris God Gloves |
|  Ancient Infernal Cape |
| Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs |
| Ring of Power |
| Agile Gem |
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|  Shield of Ranged Power |
| Jadestone Bolts |
|  Elder Crown |
| Fervor Scroll |
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Agility
| Slot | Obstacle | Bonuses |
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| 1 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Cargo Net | +3% Global GP (except Item Sales) +2% Fishing Mastery XP |
| 2 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Monkey Bars | -4% Firemaking Interval |
| 3 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Pipe Climb | +5% Melee Evasion +5% Melee Max Hit |
| 4 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Coal Stones | -4% Skill XP for all Skills +10% Food Healing Value +20% GP gained from Thieving +3% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 5 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Cliff Balance | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +5% Ranged Accuracy Rating +2 Prayer Point Cost for Prayers +5% Magic Accuracy Rating +5% Melee Accuracy Rating |
| 6 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Lake Swim | +1% Damage Reduction +5% Damage To All Monsters +3% Chance To Preserve Prayer Points |
| 7 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Boulder Trap | -20% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 8 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Raft Building | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +2% Damage To All Monsters +1% Damage Reduction |
| 9 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Ice Jump | +20 Maximum Hitpoints +5% Food Healing Value +5% Chance to Double Items Globally +10 Mining Node HP +10% Chance to Preserve Resources in Skills |
| 10 | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Ocean Rafting | +5% Damage To All Monsters +10% Global Slayer Coins (except Item Sales) +5% Auto Eat Efficiency |
| Pillar | Error creating thumbnail: File missing Pillar of Combat | +10% Ranged Evasion -0.2s Monster Respawn Timer +5% Flat Slayer Area Effect Negation +10% Melee Evasion +10% Magic Evasion +5% of Maximum Hit added to Minimum Hit +10 Flat HP Regen |
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