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{{StrategyGuide|This guide is meant for single clears and to enable idling with as low as possible requirements. Not to be the most effective method. Information on equipment, mechanics and strategies are on this page.}}
{{StrategyGuide|This guide is meant for single clears and to enable idling with as low as possible requirements. Not to be the most effective method. Information on equipment, mechanics and strategies are on this page.}}
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* If you wish to tweak the [[Combat Simulator]] Exports yourself, they can be found [[/Sims|here]].


=Why Idle This?=
=Why Idle This?=
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=Dungeon Mechanics=
=Dungeon Mechanics=
Like most dungeons, {{ZoneIcon|Lair of the Spider Queen}} has many weaker enemies before sending the strongest enemy at you, which in this case is {{MonsterIcon|Spider Queen}}. Normally, you would pick a specific combat style to fight the enemies to get the full advantage of the combat triangle, but in this dungeon, you can't. {{MonsterIcon|Spider Queen|The Spider Queen}} has a unique mechanic where they will have a random combat triangle each time. Similarly, the 19 weaker enemies before it are randomised in a way which again, makes the combat styles random. This part isn't very important since the heavy hitter in the dungeon is the last enemy. Since the random combat style gimmick is the only reason this dungeon is difficult to many, it is actually rather simple to manually clear.
Like most dungeons, {{ZoneIcon|Lair of the Spider Queen}} has many weaker enemies before sending the strongest enemy at you, which in this case is {{MonsterIcon|Spider Queen}}. Normally, you would pick a specific combat style to fight the enemies to get the full advantage of the combat triangle, but in this dungeon, you can't. {{MonsterIcon|Spider Queen|The Spider Queen}} has a unique mechanic where they will have a random combat triangle each time. Similarly, the 19 weaker enemies before it are randomized in a way which again, makes the combat styles random. This part isn't very important since the heavy hitter in the dungeon is the last enemy. Since the random combat style gimmick is the only reason this dungeon is difficult to many, it is actually rather simple to manually clear.


==Minimum Recommended Levels==
==Minimum Recommended Levels==
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* {{SkillReq|Cartography|35}} Would be advised for {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}}.
* {{SkillReq|Cartography|35}} Would be advised for {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}}.
* {{SkillReq|Cartography|90}} To visit (31,17) {{POIIcon|The Sand-Covered Treasure}} for {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV|qty=1000}} which you can turn in for {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV|qty=5000}} with {{Skill|Township}} [[Tasks#Hard|Hard Task]] 15.
* {{SkillReq|Cartography|90}} To visit (31,17) {{POIIcon|The Sand-Covered Treasure}} for {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV|qty=1000}} which you can turn in for {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV|qty=5000}} with {{Skill|Township}} [[Tasks#Hard|Hard Task]] 15.
* {{SkillReq|Herblore|90}} To craft {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}} - alternative to {{SkillReq|Cartography|90}}.
** {{SkillReq|Herblore|90}} To craft {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}} - alternative to {{SkillReq|Cartography|90}}.
* {{ItemIcon|Centaur}} Mark Level 4
* {{ItemIcon|Centaur}} Mark Level 4
* {{ItemIcon|Dragon}} Mark Level 3
* {{ItemIcon|Dragon}} Mark Level 3
==Gear==
{{Disclaimer|This setup '''ONLY WORKS FOR THE MAGE VERSION OF SPIDER QUEEN''' You will need to Run from both other styles.}}
* {{PetIcon|Leonardo}} & {{PetIcon|Erran}} will be required for this setup. Please don't attempt it without them.
* If {{AoD}}[[Atlas of Discovery Expansion]] is owned, you can replace {{ItemIcon|Fervor Scroll}} for {{ItemIcon|Power Crystals}} and/or replace {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Gloves}} for {{ItemIcon|Eradicating Gloves (m)}} for quite substantially increased kph.
* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}}
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}} & {{PrayerIcon|Holy Aegis}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}}
'''Disclaimer:''' Gem slot is not required but recommended.
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Ranged
|helm1 = Lightning Aura Helmet
|body1 = Bundled Protection Body
|legs1 = Perfect Sight Legs
|boots1 = Frost Walker Boots
|gloves1 = Aeris God Gloves
|cape1 = Infernal Cape
|neck1 = Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs
|ring1 = Ring of Power
|ammo1 = Jadestone Bolts
|gem1 = Agile Gem
|weapon1 = Shockwave
|shield1 = (P) Corundum Shield
|passive1 = Shield of Ranged Power
|consumable1 = Fervor Scroll
|familiar11 = !{{Synergy|Centaur|Dragon}}
}}


==Things that greatly impact KPH==
==Things that greatly impact KPH==
First kill will take about an hour without any of these upgrades.
* {{SkillReq|Agility|120}} - Will allow for less skill levels in {{Skill|Hitpoints|Hitpoints}} and switch the Point of Interest to {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}} - Increases KPH by about 2.
* {{SkillReq|Agility|120}} - Will allow for less skill levels in {{Skill|Hitpoints|Hitpoints}} and switch the Point of Interest to {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}} - Increases KPH by about 2.
** If {{SkillReq|Prayer|118}} & {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|117}} are also obtained on top of {{Skill|Agility|Agility}} - Swap  {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}} back to {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}} and change {{PrayerIcon|Holy Aegis}} to {{PrayerIcon|Battleborn}} - Increases KPH by about 1.5.
** If {{SkillReq|Prayer|118}} & {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|117}} are also obtained on top of {{Skill|Agility|Agility}} - Swap  {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}} back to {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}} and change {{PrayerIcon|Holy Aegis}} to {{PrayerIcon|Battleborn}} - Increases KPH by about 1.5.
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* Collecting all base-game [[Pets]] - Increases KPH by about 0,5.
* Collecting all base-game [[Pets]] - Increases KPH by about 0,5.
* {{AoD}}{{ItemIcon|Eradicating Gloves (m)}} - Direct upgrade to {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Gloves}} - Increases KPH by about 1.
* {{AoD}}{{ItemIcon|Eradicating Gloves (m)}} - Direct upgrade to {{ItemIcon|Glacia God Gloves}} - Increases KPH by about 1.
* {{AoD}}{{ItemIcon|Power Crystals}} - Direct Upgrade to {{ItemIcon|Fervor Scroll}} - Increases KPH by anout 1.
* {{AoD}}{{ItemIcon|Power Crystals}} - Direct Upgrade to {{ItemIcon|Fervor Scroll}} - Increases KPH by about 1.
* {{SkillReq|Woodcutting|118}}, {{SkillReq|Mining|112}}, {{SkillReq|Smithing|115}}, {{SkillReq|Fletching|115}} - for {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Crossbow}} and {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Bolts}} - Increases KPH by about 3.
* {{SkillReq|Woodcutting|118}}, {{SkillReq|Mining|112}}, {{SkillReq|Smithing|115}}, {{SkillReq|Fletching|115}} - for {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Crossbow}} and {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Bolts}} - Increases KPH by about 3.
* {{SkillReq|Woodcutting|112}}, {{SkillReq|Mining|115}}, {{SkillReq|Smithing|119}}, {{SkillReq|Fletching|110}} - for {{ItemIcon|Divine Crossbow}} and {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Bolts}} - Increases KPH by about 4.
* {{SkillReq|Woodcutting|112}}, {{SkillReq|Mining|115}}, {{SkillReq|Smithing|119}}, {{SkillReq|Fletching|110}} - for {{ItemIcon|Divine Crossbow}} and {{ItemIcon|Meteorite Bolts}} - Increases KPH by about 4.
All these changes add up to about 12-13 KPH.
==Recommended Buffs==
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Battleheart}} & {{PrayerIcon|Holy Aegis}}
* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}}
* {{PetIcon|Leonardo}} & {{PetIcon|Erran}} will be required for this setup. Please don't attempt it without them.
==Astrology==
As many combat bonuses from {{Skill|Astrology}} constellations are recommended. In total, Astrology serves as a massive buff to combat and will make the fight easier. The main bonuses are:
* +5 Hidden Levels for {{Skill|Melee}}{{Skill|Ranged}}{{Skill|Magic}}
**{{Icon|Iridan|type=constellation}}, {{Icon|Terra|type=constellation}}, {{Icon|Syllia|type=constellation}}, and {{Icon|Arachi|type=constellation}}. The +5 hidden {{Skill|Defence}} levels in {{Icon|Tellus|type=constellation}} are redundant.
* 5% reduced Attack Interval and Enemy Damage Reduction decreased by 5%, from {{Icon|Ashtar|type=constellation}}


==Agility==
==Agility==
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}}


==Idle Gear==
* This setup was tweaked for the absolute minimum to idle Spider Queen at reasonable levels & gear and assumes [[Lair of the Spider Queen/Guide#Minimum Recommended Levels|all recommended levels and buffs]]. This starts off with only 2 kills per hour, there's several way to [[Lair of the Spider Queen/Guide#Things that greatly impact KPH|increase the KPH]].
* If {{AoD}}[[Atlas of Discovery Expansion]] is owned, you can replace {{ItemIcon|Fervor Scroll}} for {{ItemIcon|Power Crystals}} and/or replace {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Gloves}} for {{ItemIcon|Eradicating Gloves (m)}} for quite substantially increased kph.


{{Disclaimer|This particular build only works in standard mode. This exact setup is not completely safe in hardcore or adventure mode due to the harder Combat Triangle}}
==High level Idling setup==


* For complete safety in hardcore mode, apply the following changes:
This setup will require {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|114}}.
** Level {{Skill|Hitpoints|Hitpoints}} to 120.
** Level {{Skill|Agility}} to 120.
** The Point of Interest from {{AoD}}[[Atlas of Discovery Expansion]] is not required.
** Use the Prayers {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}} & {{PrayerIcon|Holy Aegis}}
** Gather the following [[Pets]] {{PetIcon|Leonardo}}, {{PetIcon|Erran}}, {{PetIcon|Finn}}, {{PetIcon|Kiko}}.
** Replace {{ItemIcon|Ring of Power}} with {{ItemIcon|Palladium Runestone Ring}}. Make sure it is in your passive slot and not your ring slot since it has -1% DR, but when in the passive slot, you do not lose 1% DR.
** Replace {{ItemIcon|(P) Corundum Shield}} with {{ItemIcon|(P) Augite Shield}}.
** Replace {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Gloves}} with {{ItemIcon|(U) Elderwood Vambraces}}.
Always make sure to double-check your setup in the [[Combat Simulator]]. <br>


'''Disclaimer:''' Gem slot is not required but recommended.
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Holy Aegis}} & {{PrayerIcon|Battleheart}}
* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|The Shimmering Oasis}}
{{Equipment/Recommended
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Ranged
|helm1 = Mask of Torment
|helm1 = Lightning Aura Helmet
|body1 = Bundled Protection Body
|body1 = Bundled Protection Body
|legs1 = Perfect Sight Legs
|legs1 = Perfect Sight Legs
|boots1 = Frost Walker Boots
|boots1 = Frostspark Boots
|gloves1 = Aeris God Gloves
|gloves1 = Eradicating Gloves (m)
|cape1 = Infernal Cape
|cape1 = Ancient Infernal Cape
|neck1 = Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs
|neck1 = Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs
|ring1 = Wasteful Ring
|ring1 = Guardian Ring
|ammo1 = Jadestone Bolts
|gem1 = Max Hitpoints Gem
|gem1 = Agile Gem
|weapon1 = Divine Crossbow
|weapon1 = Shockwave
|shield1 = (P) Divine Shield
|shield1 = (P) Corundum Shield
|ammo1 = Onyx Bolts
|passive1 = Ring of Power
|passive1 = Wasteful Ring
|consumable1 = Fervor Scroll
|familiar11 = Witch
|familiar11 = !{{Synergy|Centaur|Dragon}}
|familiar21 = Yak
|enhC1 = Undead Enhancement (Superior)
|enhT1 = Dragon Enhancement (Superior)
|enhS1 = Gods Enhancement (Superior)
}}
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|Boulder Trap
|Raft Building
|Ice Jump
|Ocean Rafting
|Frozen Maze
|Boulder Balance
|Pillar of Combat
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}
}}


=Ancient Relics Guide=
=Ancient Relics Guide=


This is the first {{TotH}}[[Throne of the Herald Expansion]] dungeon where an idle setup for the first clear is near '''impossible'''. Stats will be capped at 108 and you'll need 110 for the next big upgrades. Seeing as focusing on skilling should be avoided as much as possible, dungeon/dropped gear is as good as it gets.
Stats will be capped at 109 and you'll need 110 for the next big upgrades. Seeing as focusing on skilling should be avoided as much as possible, dungeon/dropped gear is as good as it gets.


You will '''need''' to Manually Eat this dungeon and the suggested setup does assume this.
You will '''need''' to Manually Eat this dungeon and the suggested setup does assume this.


Tested with [[Relics]]:
Tested with [[Relics]]:
* {{Skill|Attack|notext=true}} - 1,2,3,4,5,Master
* {{Skill|Ranged|notext=true}} - 1,2,3,4,5, Master - Not required but will cut clear times in half.
* {{Skill|Strength|notext=true}} - 1,2,3,4,5,Master
* {{Skill|Magic|notext=true}} - 1,5
* {{Skill|Defence|notext=true}} - 1,2,3,4,5,Master
* {{Skill|Hitpoints|notext=true}} - 1,2,3,4,5,Master
* {{Skill|Agility|notext=true}} - 3
* {{Skill|Agility|notext=true}} - 3
* {{Skill|Astrology|notext=true}} - 1,2,3,4,5,Master
* {{Skill|Astrology|notext=true}} - 1,2,3,4,5, Master




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* {{SkillReq|Prayer|99}}  
* {{SkillReq|Prayer|99}}  
* {{SkillReq|Ranged|99}}
* {{SkillReq|Ranged|99}}


==Gear==
==Gear==
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{{ItemIcon|Engulfing Vortex Longbow}}/{{ItemIcon|Ancient Arrows}} is suggested as a swap to the {{ItemIcon|Shockwave}}/{{ItemIcon|Shield of Ranged Power}}.
{{ItemIcon|Engulfing Vortex Longbow}}/{{ItemIcon|Ancient Arrows}} is suggested as a swap to the {{ItemIcon|Shockwave}}/{{ItemIcon|Shield of Ranged Power}}.


* Prayers: {{Icon|Stone Skin|type=prayer}} and {{Icon|Battleheart|type=prayer}}
* Prayers: {{Icon|Rigour|type=prayer}} and {{Icon|Battleheart|type=prayer}}
* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}}
* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}}
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|passive1 = Elder Crown
|passive1 = Elder Crown
|consumable1 = Fervor Scroll
|consumable1 = Fervor Scroll
|familiar11 = Witch
|familiar11 = !{{Synergy|Centaur|Dragon}}
|familiar21 = Yak
}}
}}


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|showrequirements = false
|showrequirements = false
}}
}}


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{{CombatNav|Dungeon}}
{{CombatNav|Dungeon}}
{{Menu}}
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Latest revision as of 21:55, 18 November 2024

Why Idle This?

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    Lair of the Spider Queen
    is mainly cleared for the Royal Toxins Spear as it provides very generous damage boosts, and also provides an additional damage boost for when the enemy is poisoned.
  • The only other drop you can get from the dungeon is Spider Queen Eggs used for making the Spider Summoning Tablets.
  • The pet from the dungeon, Webbie also reduces your attack speed by 0.1s, which is incredibly useful in many ways.

Dungeon Mechanics

Like most dungeons,
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Lair of the Spider Queen
has many weaker enemies before sending the strongest enemy at you, which in this case is Spider Queen. Normally, you would pick a specific combat style to fight the enemies to get the full advantage of the combat triangle, but in this dungeon, you can't. The Spider Queen has a unique mechanic where they will have a random combat triangle each time. Similarly, the 19 weaker enemies before it are randomized in a way which again, makes the combat styles random. This part isn't very important since the heavy hitter in the dungeon is the last enemy. Since the random combat style gimmick is the only reason this dungeon is difficult to many, it is actually rather simple to manually clear.

Minimum Recommended Levels

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    Level 100
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    Level 110
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    Level 110
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    Level 110
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    Level 114
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    Level 80
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    Level 80
    - Mastered all the combat Constellations.
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    Level 90
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    Level 35
    Would be advised for The Shimmering Oasis.
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    Level 90
    To visit (31,17) The Sand-Covered Treasure for 1,000 Damage Reduction Potion IV which you can turn in for 5,000 Damage Reduction Potion IV with
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    Township
    Hard Task 15.
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      Level 90
      To craft Damage Reduction Potion IV - alternative to
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      Level 90
      .
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    Centaur
    Mark Level 4
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    Dragon
    Mark Level 3


Gear

This setup ONLY WORKS FOR THE MAGE VERSION OF SPIDER QUEEN You will need to Run from both other styles.


Disclaimer: Gem slot is not required but recommended.


Things that greatly impact KPH

First kill will take about an hour without any of these upgrades.

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    Level 120
    - Will allow for less skill levels in
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    Hitpoints
    and switch the Point of Interest to Bandit Hideout - Increases KPH by about 2.
    • If
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      Level 118
      &
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      Level 117
      are also obtained on top of
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      Agility
      - Swap Bandit Hideout back to The Shimmering Oasis and change
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      Holy Aegis
      to
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      Battleborn
      - Increases KPH by about 1.5.
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    Level 120
    - Max out Ashtar - Increases KPH by about 1.3.
  • Collecting all base-game Pets - Increases KPH by about 0,5.
  • Eradicating Gloves (m) - Direct upgrade to Glacia God Gloves - Increases KPH by about 1.
  • Power Crystals - Direct Upgrade to Fervor Scroll - Increases KPH by about 1.
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    Level 118
    ,
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    Level 112
    ,
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    Level 115
    ,
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    Level 115
    - for Meteorite Crossbow and Meteorite Bolts - Increases KPH by about 3.
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    Level 112
    ,
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    Level 115
    ,
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    Level 119
    ,
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    Level 110
    - for Divine Crossbow and Meteorite Bolts - Increases KPH by about 4.

Agility


High level Idling setup

This setup will require
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Level 114
.


Ancient Relics Guide

Stats will be capped at 109 and you'll need 110 for the next big upgrades. Seeing as focusing on skilling should be avoided as much as possible, dungeon/dropped gear is as good as it gets.

You will need to Manually Eat this dungeon and the suggested setup does assume this.

Tested with Relics:

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    - 1,2,3,4,5, Master - Not required but will cut clear times in half.
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    - 1,5
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    - 3
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    - 1,2,3,4,5, Master


Skills

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    Level 99
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    Level 99
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    Level 99
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    Level 99
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    Level 99
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    Level 99


Gear

Engulfing Vortex Longbow/ Ancient Arrows is suggested as a swap to the
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Shockwave
/ Shield of Ranged Power.


Agility