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===Why clear Dragons Den?===
=Why Clear Dragons Den?=
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}} and optionally {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}.  
{{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} is usually cleared for the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}}, {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces}}, and {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} because they are wanted for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Air God Dungeon/Guide|Air]] and {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon|notext=true}} [[Water God Dungeon/Guide|Water]] God Dungeons. The {{ItemIcon|(U) Ancient D-hide Shield}} can be upgraded into the {{ItemIcon|Scaled Shield}}, a bis ranged shield for a very long time.


Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}.
Other parts of the {{ItemIcon|Ancient D-hide Body|Ancient}} set are of little importance because you will use the {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet|notext=true}} [[Aeris God Armour]] for the {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}. Keep them only if you didn't already get your {{Skill|Ranged}} to level 85.


===Gear to idle===


Because all enemies in {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} are {{Icon|Melee}}, it is advised to use a {{Skill|Magic}} or {{Icon|Melee}} build due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
* If you wish to tweak the [[Combat Simulator]] Exports yourself, they can be found [[/Sims|here]].


This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}.


The simulations are run on a character with lvl 80 in all combat skills except {{Skill|Hitpoints}}.
=Standard Guide=


Due to the wide range of cases, it is recommended to use the [[Combat Simulator]] to compare the options tailored for your situation.
Because all enemies in {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} are {{Icon|Melee}}, it is advised to use a {{Skill|Magic}} or {{Icon|Melee}} build due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
 
The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to put {{ItemIcon|Ring of Wealth}} here if you have it or {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} otherwise.
 
====Magic====
 
Below is a basic build that needs {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|90}} to create, {{SkillReq|Magic|78}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=830|type=skill|HP}} to idle.
 
The spell of choice is {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}}.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! Slot
! DR%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat}}
| Head
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes}}
| Body
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
| Leggings
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Boots}}
| Boots
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| Hands
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| Weapon
| 0%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 24%
|}
 
This build's clear speed is 16 dungeons per hour with 1060 {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} and 1205 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes.
 
The adjusted clear time is 841 seconds per dungeon.
 
====Melee====
 
The following build needs {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}} to create, {{SkillReq|Attack|70}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=780|type=skill|HP}} to idle.


{| class="wikitable"
This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}}. {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.
|-
! Item
! Slot
! DR%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Helmet}}
| Head
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platebody}}
| Body
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Platelegs}}
| Leggings
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Boots}}
| Boots
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Shield}}
| Off-hand
| 6%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Paladin Gloves}}
| Hands
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Amulet of Calculated Promotion}}
| Neck
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}}
| Weapon
| 0%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 34%
|}


The clear speed of this build is 9.8 dungeons per hour with 655 {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}}.  
All the simulations for this guide were done without any [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]]. <br>
If you have {{PetIcon|Finn}} you can subtract 1 {{Skill|Hitpoints|notext=true}} Level from the requirements. <br>
If you have {{PetIcon|Leonardo}} you can subtract 2 {{Skill|Hitpoints|notext=true}} Level from the requirements.


The adjusted clear time is 835 seconds per dungeon.
According to the [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulation] - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}}. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} with a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.


With the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}, it is 10.7 dungeons per hour with 626 Crabs and the adjusted clear time being 746 seconds per dungeon.


===Adjusted clear time===
==Basic Magic==
Adjusted clear time <math>A</math> is calculated by dividing the overall time <math>T_{all}</math> by the number of dungeons <math>D_h</math> cleared per one hour.


The overall time <math>T_{all}</math> is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} <math>T_c</math>, mine essence <math>T_m</math>, and create runes <math>T_r</math>. All measured in seconds. The number of spent {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes is noted as <math>N</math>.
This part of the guide will need either {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}} '''or''' {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|66}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|50}} to fully idle.  


The {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} cooking time is 7 seconds. The {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with the combination runes is used.
This build has around 17 clears per hour.


The approximate {{Icon|Adventure}} mode situation is taken for Runecrafting. In particular, {{ItemIcon|Mining Gloves}} and {{ItemIcon|Elemental Potion IV|Elemental Potion}} are not used. The Runecrafting 95% milestone of the mastery pool is active, and the runes have 99 mastery, meaning that 16 runes are produced per two seconds. No rune preservation or doubling.


The mining time is the one with the {{UpgradeIcon|Dragon Pickaxe}} upgrade - 1.3 seconds. The number of essence needed to mine considers all runes used in crafting: {{ItemIcon|Rune Essence|Essence}}, {{ItemIcon|Air Rune|Air}}, {{ItemIcon|Fire Rune|Fire}}, {{ItemIcon|Smoke Rune|Smoke}} and {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes.
===Gear===


<math>T_m = (N * 7 * (1 + 2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + N / 16) * 1.3 = N / 16 * (8.75 + 1) * 1.3 = N * 12.675 / 16</math>
* Spell: {{Icon|Earth Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes.
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}}  & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Might}}


For <math>T_r</math> compared to <math>T_m</math>, the only difference is that the number of mined essence is multiplied by 2 instead of 1.3.
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Magic
|helm1 = Earth Adept Wizard Hat
|body1 = Earth Adept Wizard Robes
|legs1 = Earth Adept Wizard Bottoms
|boots1 = Earth Adept Wizard Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Skull Cape
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Magic
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Magic Wand (Powerful)
|shield1 = (G) Rune Shield
}}


<math>T_r = N * 9.75 * 2 / 16 = N * 9.75 / 8</math>
===Agility===


Only required if you don't have {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}}.


The {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)|magic}} build, <math>A_{magic}</math>:
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}


<math>T_c = 1060 * 7 = 7420</math>


<math>T_m = 1205 * 12.675 / 16 = 955</math>
==Melee==


<math>T_r = 1205 * 9.75 / 8 = 1469</math>
This part of the guide will need {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|76}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|70}} to fully idle. <br>
You can also upgrade the [[Adamant Equipment]] to [[Rune Equipment]] which will lower the requirements to {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|73}} and {{SkillReq|Agility|50}} to fully idle.  


<math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 7420 + 955 + 1469 = 13444</math>
This build has around 12-13 clears per hour.


<math>D_h = 16</math>


<math>A_{magic} = T_{all} / D_h = 13444 / 16 = 841</math>
===Gear===


* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}} & {{PrayerIcon|Chivalry}}


The {{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier|rapier}} build, <math>A_{rapier}</math>:
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Melee
|helm1 = (G) Adamant Helmet
|body1 = (G) Adamant Platebody
|legs1 = (G) Adamant Platelegs
|boots1 = (G) Adamant Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Obsidian Cape
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Defence
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = !{{ItemIcon|Sunset Rapier}} or {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}


<math>T_c = 655 * 7 = 4585</math>
===Agility===


<math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 4585 + 0 + 0 = 8185</math>
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|Boulder Trap
|Raft Building
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}


<math>D_h = 9.8</math>


<math>A_{rapier} = T_{all} / D_h = 8185 / 9.8 = 835</math>


=Ancient Relics=


The {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw|claw}} build, <math>A_{claw}</math>:
On top of no [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]] this guide will also assume no [[Relics]].


<math>T_c = 626 * 7 = 4382</math>
Much like any other dungeon up to now, Manual Eating will be required.


<math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 4382 + 0 + 0 = 7982</math>
==Magic==
This will require {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|60}} so the level 70 cap increase must be reached.


<math>D_h = 10.7</math>
This Dungeon will take roughly 5.5 minutes to complete with the provided setup.  <br>  
And will take roughly 140 {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} to complete.


<math>A_{claw} = T_{all} / D_h = 7982 / 10.7 = 746</math>


<math></math>
* Spell: {{Icon|Earth Wave|type=spell}}
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}}  & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Might}}


{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Magic
|helm1 = Earth Adept Wizard Hat
|body1 = Earth Adept Wizard Robes
|legs1 = Earth Adept Wizard Bottoms
|boots1 = Earth Adept Wizard Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Skull Cape
|neck1 = Amulet of Magic
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Magic Wand (Powerful)
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}


For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}}. It needs {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=860|type=skill|HP}} to idle.


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Item
! Slot
! DR%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Hat}}
| Head
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes}}
| Body
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms}}
| Leggings
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Boots}}
| Boots
| 5%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}}
| Weapon
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Enchanted Cape}}
| Cape
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}}
| Neck
| 2%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Book of Eli}}
| Off-hand
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Elementalist Gloves}}
| Hands
| 0%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 22%
|}


The clear speed of this build is 20 dungeons per hour with 1000 {{ItemIcon|Crab|Crabs}} and 1170 {{ItemIcon|Ancient Rune|Ancient}} runes.


<math>A_{MidMagic}</math>:


<math>T_c = 1000 * 7 = 7000</math>
==Melee==


<math>T_m = 1170 * 12.675 / 16 = 927</math>
This Dungeon will take roughly 10 minutes to complete with the provided setup. 15 minutes if you use an {{ItemIcon|Ice Sword}}. <br>  
And will take roughly 235-325 {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} to complete.


<math>T_r = 1170 * 9.75 / 8 = 1426</math>


<math>T_{all} = 3600 + T_c + T_m + T_r = 3600 + 7000 + 927 + 1426 = 12953</math>
{{ItemIcon|Ice Sword}} can be used instead of {{ItemIcon|Rune Claw}}


<math>D_h = 20</math>
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Ultimate Strength}} & {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}}


<math>A_{MidMagic} = T_{all} / D_h = 12953 / 20 = 648</math>
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Melee
|helm1 = (G) Adamant Helmet
|body1 = (G) Adamant Platebody
|legs1 = (G) Adamant Platelegs
|boots1 = (G) Adamant Boots
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|cape1 = Obsidian Cape
|neck1 = Amulet of Calculated Promotion
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|weapon1 = Rune Claw
|shield1 = (G) Adamant Shield
}}


As you see, the MidMagic build clears faster than the Claw build by 13% and has many options to be improved further.


Therefore, the magic build is suggested.


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Latest revision as of 21:52, 18 November 2024

Why Clear Dragons Den?

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Dragons Den
is usually cleared for the
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Ancient Crossbow
, (U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces, and (U) Ancient D-hide Shield because they are wanted for the
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Air and
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Water God Dungeons. The (U) Ancient D-hide Shield can be upgraded into the Scaled Shield, a bis ranged shield for a very long time. Other parts of the Ancient set are of little importance because you will use the Aeris God Armour for the
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Water God Dungeon
. Keep them only if you didn't already get your
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Ranged
to level 85.



Standard Guide

Because all enemies in
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Dragons Den
are
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Melee
, it is advised to use a
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Magic
or
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Melee
build due to the Combat Triangle. This guide assumes that you have
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Auto Eat - Tier III
. Crabs were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon. All the simulations for this guide were done without any Pets,
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Astrology
or Potions.
If you have Finn, the Cat you can subtract 1
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Level from the requirements.
If you have
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Leonardo
you can subtract 2
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Level from the requirements. According to the simulation - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the
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Dragons Den
. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the
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Dragons Den
with a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.


Basic Magic

This part of the guide will need either
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Level 73
or
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Level 66
and
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Level 50
to fully idle.

This build has around 17 clears per hour.


Gear

  • Spell:
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    Earth Surge
    with combination runes.
  • Prayers:
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    Mystic Lore
    &
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    Mystic Might

Agility

Only required if you don't have
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Level 73
.


Melee

This part of the guide will need
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Level 76
and
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Level 70
to fully idle.
You can also upgrade the Adamant Equipment to Rune Equipment which will lower the requirements to
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Level 73
and
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Level 50
to fully idle.

This build has around 12-13 clears per hour.


Gear

Agility


Ancient Relics

On top of no Pets,
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Astrology
or Potions this guide will also assume no Relics.

Much like any other dungeon up to now, Manual Eating will be required.

Magic

This will require
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Level 60
so the level 70 cap increase must be reached.

This Dungeon will take roughly 5.5 minutes to complete with the provided setup.
And will take roughly 140 Lobster to complete.


  • Spell:
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    Earth Wave
  • Prayers:
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    Mystic Lore
    &
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    Mystic Might



Melee

This Dungeon will take roughly 10 minutes to complete with the provided setup. 15 minutes if you use an Ice Sword.
And will take roughly 235-325 Lobster to complete.


Ice Sword can be used instead of Rune Claw