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* If you wish to tweak the [[Combat Simulator]] Exports yourself, they can be found [[/Sims|here]].
 
=Why Clear Fire God Dungeon?=
 
There are a lot of reasons to clear this dungeon:
* {{UpgradeIcon|Art of Control}} - unlocks upgrade that greatly speeds up {{Skill|Cooking}}, {{Skill|Firemaking}} and {{Skill|Smithing}}.
* [[Ragnar God Armour]] - gives one of the strongest offensive melee builds.
* {{ItemIcon|Big ol Ron}} - very good 2 handed weapon that guarantees 100% doubling of loot.
* {{ItemIcon|Fighter Amulet}} - No longer relevant
* {{ItemIcon|Fighter Ring}} - a ring that is sadly easily replaced.
* {{ItemIcon|Ragnar Godsword}} - can be upgraded into the {{ItemIcon|Ultima Godsword}}.
 
=Standard Guides=
 
==Manual Build==
You might want to manually go through the {{ZoneIcon|Fire God Dungeon}} if you want to get the {{UpgradeIcon|Art of Control}} as soon as possible.
 
The idea is to idle everything but the Cataclysm attack of {{Icon|Ragnar|type=monster}}. Use [https://zxv975.github.io/CanIIdle/ Can I Idle] to check if you can do it. You want to be able to tank everything else to reduce the chance of death.
 
The spell of choice is either 20k-accuracy {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}} or {{Icon|Gust|type=spell}} if you unlocked it. With them, you don't have to worry about the long fights because these spells won't miss if they're fired at accuracy of 20k or higher.
 
 
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Might}} & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Mastery}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|The Academia Arcanum}}
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1=Glacia God Helmet
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Magic
|cape1=Infernal Cape
|body1=Glacia God Platebody
|legs1=Glacia God Platelegs
|weapon1=Magic Wand (Elite)
|shield1=Scaled Shield
|gloves1=Glacia God Gloves
|boots1=Glacia God Boots
|ring1=Silver Diamond Ring
|consumable1=Magic Hinder Scroll
|familiar11=!{{Synergy|Witch|Dragon}}
}}
 
The {{ItemIcon|Scaled Shield}} is used to increase your DPS. If you don't have enough HP, {{ItemIcon|Dragonfire Shield}} might be a good option.
 
You can use {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}} if you don't have its {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Elite)|Elite}} version.
 
==Idle Build==
It's recommended to beat the Fire God Dungeon with Ranged, since enemies here are all melee and magic, due to the [[Combat Triangle]].
 
=== Gear ===
 
* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Diamond Luck Potion}}
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Rigour}} & {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}}
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Ranged
|showDR=true
|helm1=Aeris God Helmet
|neck1=Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs
|cape1=Infernal Cape
|ammo1=Emerald Bolts
|body1=Aeris God Platebody
|legs1=Aeris God Platelegs
|weapon1=Ancient Crossbow
|shield1=Dragonfire Shield
|gloves1=Aeris God Gloves
|boots1=Aeris God Boots
|ring1=Deadeye Ring
|consumable1=Ranged Hinder Scroll
|familiar11=!{{Synergy|Centaur|Dragon}}
}}
 
=== Agility ===
 
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|Boulder Trap
|Raft Building
|Ice Jump
|Ocean Rafting
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
|gpCostReduction = 0
|scCostReduction = 0
|itemCostReduction = 0
}}
 
 
==Maximized Farming==
The rest of this guide is NOT for your first clear, your average clear, or even your first 100 clears. This is purely to maximize scrolls for any missing items. This will assume the Standard Mode [[Combat Triangle]], 99 in all skills, access to nearly all weapons and items in the game, and access to all DR and HP pets. This assumes you are (unless otherwise noted) using an optimal Agility setup, are using your best dps prayers, your best summoning synergy, and are using {{ItemIcon|Diamond Luck Potion IV|Diamond Luck Potions}}
 
===Ranged===
This build runs a fine line between alive and dead, tradeoffs may be necessary for your setup to survive.
 
{{ItemIcon|Cape of Prat}} is marginally faster than {{ItemIcon|Maximum Skillcape}}, but as it more than doubles your ammo expenditure, it is not recommended.
 
This clocks in around 12 to 13 scrolls per hour, depending slightly on your {{Skill|Astrology}} bonuses
 
 
* {{Icon|Diamond Luck Potion}}
* {{Icon|Battleheart|type=prayer}} and {{Icon|Rigour|type=prayer}}
* {{ItemIcon|Dragon}} and {{ItemIcon|Centaur}}
* {{ItemIcon|Jadestone Bolts}}
* {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}}
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Ranged
|showDR=true
|helm1=Aeris God Helmet
|neck1=Deadeye Amulet
|cape1=Maximum Skillcape
|body1=Aeris God Platebody
|legs1=Aeris God Platelegs
|weapon1=Shockwave
|shield1=Shield of Ranged Power
|gloves1=Aeris God Gloves
|boots1=Aeris God Boots
|ring1=Wasteful Ring
|passive1=Chapeau Noir
|consumable1=Ranged Hinder Scroll
|familiar11=!{{Synergy|Centaur|Dragon}}
}}
 
 
===Magic===
 
This build uses {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}}, {{Icon|Anguish III|type=curse}}, and {{Icon|Surge II|type=aurora}}.
 
To use this method, you need to have 1040 HP and 68 DR. This is achieved by using {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}} instead of {{ItemIcon|Diamond Luck Potion IV|Diamond Luck Potions}}.
 
This clocks in around 21 to 22 scrolls per hour, depending on your access to {{ItemIcon|Shield of Magic Power}}, and depending slightly on your {{Skill|Astrology}} bonuses
 
 
* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}}
* Prayers: {{Icon|Battleheart|type=prayer}} and {{Icon|Augury|type=prayer}}
* Spell: {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}}
* Curse: {{Icon|Anguish III|type=curse}}
* Aurora: {{Icon|Surge II|type=aurora}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|The Academia Arcanum}}
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Magic
|showDR=true
|helm1=Glacia God Helmet
|neck1=Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs
|cape1=Skull Cape
|body1=Glacia God Platebody
|legs1=Glacia God Platelegs
|weapon1=Ocean Song
|shield1=Shield of Magic Power
|gloves1=Glacia God Gloves
|boots1=Glacia God Boots
|ring1=Ring of Wealth
|passive1=Chapeau Noir
|consumable1=Magic Hinder Scroll
|familiar11=!{{Synergy|Witch|Dragon}}
}}
 
 
 
=Ancient Relics Guides=
 
On top of no [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]] this guide will also assume no [[Relics]].
 
Much like any other dungeon up to now, Manual Eating will be required.
 
At this stage of the game you should have Level 85 combat caps. It is highly recommended you obtain a full set of [[Aeris God Armour]], [[Glacia God Armour]] and [[Terran God Armour]]. <br>
In [[Ancient Relics]] you won't replace these until you get to Level 110 combat caps at {{ZoneIcon|Lair of the Spider Queen}}.
 
* It is suggested you start with {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}}, collect the full [[Aeris God Armour]] set.
* Use the [[Aeris God Armour]] set to clear {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}}, collect the full [[Glacia God Armour]] set.
* Use the [[Glacia God Armour]] set to clear {{ZoneIcon|Earth God Dungeon}} to collect the full [[Terran God Armour]] set.
 
As long as you have 1 Platebody you can substitute this for the other sets as those are quite rare, this is only recommended if you don't want to spend the time to farm the rest. <br>
{{ItemIcon|Cloudburst Staff}} from {{ZoneIcon|Water God Dungeon}} is also highly recommended, it will make a lot of farms and clears easier/faster. <br>
{{ItemIcon|Earth Layered Shield}} from {{ZoneIcon|Earth God Dungeon}} would also be recommended as it's a very nice high Damage Reduction Shield.
 
You can start at any of the 3 [[Dungeons]], {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} generally has the easiest entry requirements and thus is suggested you start there, if you have better clear speeds at 1 of the other 2 dungeons, feel free to start there and work your way around. You'd use [[Terran God Armour]] for {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} then.
 
It is suggested you farm all the [[God Equipment|God Armour Equipment]] before you continue to {{ZoneIcon|Fire God Dungeon}}.
 
At this point {{ItemIcon|Ragnar God Helmet|Ragnar God Armour}} can be skipped and use {{ItemIcon|Terran God Helmet|Terran God Armour}} for [[Melee]] combat for now, the slight damage increase from {{ItemIcon|Ragnar God Helmet|Ragnar God Armour}} is generally not worth of the Damage Reduction loss from not using {{ItemIcon|Terran God Helmet|Terran God Armour}}.
 
 
As for this dungeon in particular. Be sure to keep an eye on {{MonsterIcon|Ragnar}}s cast-bar. Cataclysm is an attack which hits for quite a lot, you want to be at full health when this hits.
 
==Melee==
 
Even though this is technically possible, it will require a whole lot of farming. <br>
To be able to do it with [[Melee]] you will need {{SkillReq|Agility|50}}. <br>
It will also require {{ItemIcon|Earth Layered Shield}}.
 
This dungeon will take roughly 15 minutes to clear with [[Melee]] and use approximately {{ItemIcon|Lobster|qty=2710}} per clear.
 
In short, it is highly discouraged to use [[Melee]] to attempt {{ZoneIcon|Fire God Dungeon}}.
 


===Gear===
===Gear===


It's recommended to beat the Fire God Dungeon with Ranged, since enemies here are all melee and magic, due to the [[Combat Triangle]].  
* Potion: {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion IV}}
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Chivalry}} & {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|Dark Waters}}
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Melee
|helm1 = Terran God Helmet
|body1 = Terran God Platebody
|legs1 = Terran God Platelegs
|boots1 = Terran God Boots
|gloves1 = Terran God Gloves
|cape1 = Fire Cape
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Defence
|ring1 = Guardian Ring
|gem1 = Accuracy Gem
|weapon1 = Infernal Claw
|shield1 = Earth Layered Shield
|familiar11 = !{{Synergy|Centaur|Yak}}
}}
 
===Agility===
 
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|Rope Jump
|Pipe Climb
|Gap Jump
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}
 
 
 
==Ranged==
 
The estimated time for a clear is 12.5 minutes with a {{ItemIcon|Dragon Crossbow}}.
Would also take roughly {{ItemIcon|Lobster|qty=350}}.
 
 
{{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}} is roughly 1.5 minute faster than {{ItemIcon|Dragon Crossbow}}. <br>
This would also lower the {{ItemIcon|Lobster}} use to 290 per clear.
 
 
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Eagle Eye}} & {{PrayerIcon|Sharp Vision}}
* Point of Interest: {{POIIcon|Bandit Hideout}}
 
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Ranged
|helm1 = Aeris God Helmet
|body1 = Aeris God Platebody
|legs1 = Aeris God Platelegs
|boots1 = Aeris God Boots
|gloves1 = Aeris God Gloves
|cape1 = Fire Cape
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Ranged
|ring1 = Deadeye Ring
|gem1 = Accuracy Gem
|weapon1 = Ancient Crossbow
|shield1 = (G) Rune Shield
|ammo1 = Emerald Bolts
|familiar11 = !{{Synergy|Centaur|Yak}}
}}
 
 
 
 


{| class="wikitable"
==Magic==
|-
! Item
! Slot
! DR%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Helmet}}
| Head
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Platebody}}
| Body
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Platelegs}}
| Leggings
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Boots}}
| Boots
| 8%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Aeris God Gloves}}
| Hands
| 8%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Subtotal
| 40%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Infernal Cape}}
| Cape
| 4%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs}}
| Neck
| 3%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Wasteful Ring}}
| Ring
| 0%
|-
| {{ItemIcon|Dragonfire Shield}}
| Off-hand
| 8%
|-
! scope="row" colspan="2" | Total
| 55%
|}


====Requirements====
The top 2 spell tier will require {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|85}} skill caps to be unlocked.
This Dungeon essentially depends on using the {{ItemIcon|Wasteful Ring}}, since it reduces the need for DR% by 7 or 8 points.


The following assumes the player is max level {{Skill|Hitpoints|HP}}.
Even though it doesn't take full advantage of the [[Combat Triangle]], {{ItemIcon|Cloudburst Staff}} is so powerful that it is by far the fastest method to clear {{ZoneIcon|Fire God Dungeon}} with. <br>
If you don't have {{ItemIcon|Cloudburst Staff}}, {{Skill|Magic}} and {{Skill|Ranged}} are about equal in clear speed.


Having {{PetIcon|Finn}} does not make a difference for the following, coincidentally, and thus could replace the need for the last HP level.


====Extra DR====
Estimated clear time for the provided setup is 4 minutes. You'll use roughly {{ItemIcon|Lobster|qty=115}} per clear.
An {{ItemIcon|Earth Layered Shield}} is better than a {{ItemIcon|Dragonfire Shield}}, but is arguably harder to get. The ELS requires a total of 64% DR, the DFS requires a total of 62% DR.
* Note that the ELS gives 4% extra DR by itself, effectively reducing the extra requirement.


{| class="wikitable"
Without a {{ItemIcon|Cloudburst Staff}} you can alternatively use a {{ItemIcon|Magic Wand (Powerful)}} with a {{ItemIcon|(G) Rune Shield}}, this is however more than triple the clear time (13 minutes for a clear).
| DFS
| You need 7% more DR
|-
| ELS
| You need 5% more DR
|}


* {{PrayerIcon|Stone Skin}} prayer provides +3% DR
* You can also use {{Icon|Water Surge|type=spell}} for a 30 second faster clear.
* {{ItemIcon|Damage Reduction Potion II|Damage Reduction Potions}} provide +2/4/6/10% DR, based on tier.
* Or {{Icon|Water Blast|type=spell}} for a 40 second slower clear.  


====Weapon====
For the weapon, {{ItemIcon|Ancient Crossbow}} is a decent choice, with {{ItemIcon|Emerald Bolts}}, as you will need {{ItemIcon|Diamond}} for potions.


====Notes====
* Spell: {{Icon|Water Wave|type=spell}}
If you haven't ground out a {{ItemIcon|Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs}} yet, you could use {{ItemIcon|Elite Amulet of Defence}} instead, with only 1% DR loss.
* Curse: {{Icon|Anguish III|type=curse}}
* Aurora: {{Icon|Surge II|type=aurora}} ('''Optional''')
* Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Might}} & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Mastery}}


You can get up to 1100 hp through agility, reducing the total dr% requirement with Wasteful Ring to 56% (the -2% dr one is not worth it). Without Wasteful Ring, get it up to 1120 HP at the cost of two DR%, and you will only need 64% dr.
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style = Magic
|helm1 = Glacia God Helmet
|body1 = Glacia God Platebody
|legs1 = Glacia God Platelegs
|boots1 = Glacia God Boots
|gloves1 = Glacia God Gloves
|cape1 = Fire Cape
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Magic
|ring1 = Warlock Ring
|gem1 = Accuracy Gem
|weapon1 = Cloudburst Staff
|familiar11 = !{{Synergy|Centaur|Yak}}
}}


At 1000 HP, and without Wasteful Ring, you would need 71% DR.
At 1030 HP, and without Wasteful Ring, you would need 70% DR.


[[Category:Guides]]
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Latest revision as of 21:53, 18 November 2024

Why Clear Fire God Dungeon?

There are a lot of reasons to clear this dungeon:

Standard Guides

Manual Build

You might want to manually go through the
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Fire God Dungeon
if you want to get the
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Art of Control
as soon as possible.

The idea is to idle everything but the Cataclysm attack of Ragnar. Use Can I Idle to check if you can do it. You want to be able to tank everything else to reduce the chance of death.

The spell of choice is either 20k-accuracy
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Slicing Winds
or
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Gust
if you unlocked it. With them, you don't have to worry about the long fights because these spells won't miss if they're fired at accuracy of 20k or higher.


The Scaled Shield is used to increase your DPS. If you don't have enough HP, Dragonfire Shield might be a good option.

You can use Magic Wand (Powerful) if you don't have its Elite version.

Idle Build

It's recommended to beat the Fire God Dungeon with Ranged, since enemies here are all melee and magic, due to the Combat Triangle.

Gear

Agility


Maximized Farming

The rest of this guide is NOT for your first clear, your average clear, or even your first 100 clears. This is purely to maximize scrolls for any missing items. This will assume the Standard Mode Combat Triangle, 99 in all skills, access to nearly all weapons and items in the game, and access to all DR and HP pets. This assumes you are (unless otherwise noted) using an optimal Agility setup, are using your best dps prayers, your best summoning synergy, and are using Diamond Luck Potions

Ranged

This build runs a fine line between alive and dead, tradeoffs may be necessary for your setup to survive.

Cape of Prat is marginally faster than Maximum Skillcape, but as it more than doubles your ammo expenditure, it is not recommended.

This clocks in around 12 to 13 scrolls per hour, depending slightly on your
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Astrology
bonuses



Magic

This build uses
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Fire Surge
,
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Anguish III
, and
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Surge II
.

To use this method, you need to have 1040 HP and 68 DR. This is achieved by using Damage Reduction Potion IV instead of Diamond Luck Potions.

This clocks in around 21 to 22 scrolls per hour, depending on your access to Shield of Magic Power, and depending slightly on your
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Astrology
bonuses



Ancient Relics Guides

On top of no Pets,
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Astrology
or Potions this guide will also assume no Relics.

Much like any other dungeon up to now, Manual Eating will be required.

At this stage of the game you should have Level 85 combat caps. It is highly recommended you obtain a full set of Aeris God Armour, Glacia God Armour and Terran God Armour.

In Ancient Relics you won't replace these until you get to Level 110 combat caps at
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Lair of the Spider Queen
.

As long as you have 1 Platebody you can substitute this for the other sets as those are quite rare, this is only recommended if you don't want to spend the time to farm the rest.

Cloudburst Staff from
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Water God Dungeon
is also highly recommended, it will make a lot of farms and clears easier/faster.
Earth Layered Shield from
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Earth God Dungeon
would also be recommended as it's a very nice high Damage Reduction Shield. You can start at any of the 3 Dungeons,
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Air God Dungeon
generally has the easiest entry requirements and thus is suggested you start there, if you have better clear speeds at 1 of the other 2 dungeons, feel free to start there and work your way around. You'd use Terran God Armour for
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Air God Dungeon
then. It is suggested you farm all the God Armour Equipment before you continue to
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Fire God Dungeon
.

At this point Ragnar God Armour can be skipped and use Terran God Armour for Melee combat for now, the slight damage increase from Ragnar God Armour is generally not worth of the Damage Reduction loss from not using Terran God Armour.


As for this dungeon in particular. Be sure to keep an eye on Ragnars cast-bar. Cataclysm is an attack which hits for quite a lot, you want to be at full health when this hits.

Melee

Even though this is technically possible, it will require a whole lot of farming.

To be able to do it with Melee you will need
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Level 50
.

It will also require Earth Layered Shield.

This dungeon will take roughly 15 minutes to clear with Melee and use approximately 2,710 Lobster per clear.

In short, it is highly discouraged to use Melee to attempt
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Fire God Dungeon
.


Gear

Agility


Ranged

The estimated time for a clear is 12.5 minutes with a Dragon Crossbow. Would also take roughly 350 Lobster.


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Ancient Crossbow
is roughly 1.5 minute faster than Dragon Crossbow.

This would also lower the Lobster use to 290 per clear.




Magic

The top 2 spell tier will require
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Level 85
skill caps to be unlocked. Even though it doesn't take full advantage of the Combat Triangle, Cloudburst Staff is so powerful that it is by far the fastest method to clear
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Fire God Dungeon
with.
If you don't have Cloudburst Staff,
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Magic
and
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Ranged
are about equal in clear speed.


Estimated clear time for the provided setup is 4 minutes. You'll use roughly 115 Lobster per clear.

Without a Cloudburst Staff you can alternatively use a Magic Wand (Powerful) with a (G) Rune Shield, this is however more than triple the clear time (13 minutes for a clear).

  • You can also use
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    Water Surge
    for a 30 second faster clear.
  • Or
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    Water Blast
    for a 40 second slower clear.


  • Spell:
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    Water Wave
  • Curse:
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    Anguish III
  • Aurora:
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    Surge II
    (Optional)
  • Prayers:
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    Mystic Might
    &
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    Mystic Mastery