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The Volcanic Cave is the dungeon that unlocks all of the Legendary dungeons. The guide covers gives recommendations on gear needed to idle this dungeon. Idling has a significantly higher skill and equipment requirements than manual clears.
The Volcanic Cave is the dungeon that unlocks all of the Legendary dungeons. The guide covers gives recommendations on gear needed to idle this dungeon. Idling has a significantly higher skill and equipment requirements than manual clears.


==Why Clear Volcanic Cave?==
=Why Clear Volcanic Cave?=


* Clear 1 time:
* Clear 1 time:
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* Clear 50 times:
* Clear 50 times:
** For a [[Township Task]] that gives {{ItemIcon|Dragon Bones|qtr=500}}, {{SC}} and {{GP}}
** For a [[Township Task]] that gives {{ItemIcon|Dragon Bones|qtr=500}}, {{SC}} and {{GP}}
** To start obtaining {{ItemIcon|Ancient Helmet|ancient armour}} in preparation for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}}
** To start obtaining {{ItemIcon|Ancient Helmet|Ancient Armour}} in preparation for the {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}}
* Clear 100 times:
* Clear 100 times:
** To unlock Ancient Magicks which gives you powerful spells such as {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, {{Icon|Icicle Volley|type=spell}}, and {{Icon|Ignite|type=spell}}.
** To unlock Ancient Magicks which gives you powerful spells such as {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell}}, {{Icon|Icicle Volley|type=spell}}, and {{Icon|Ignite|type=spell}}.
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** To farm for the {{Icon|Amulet of Fury|qty=10|type=item|Amulets of Fury}} needed for the {{ItemIcon|Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs}} (FEZ). Check the [[Fury_of_the_Elemental_Zodiacs/Guide|FEZ/Guide]] for more details.
** To farm for the {{Icon|Amulet of Fury|qty=10|type=item|Amulets of Fury}} needed for the {{ItemIcon|Fury of the Elemental Zodiacs}} (FEZ). Check the [[Fury_of_the_Elemental_Zodiacs/Guide|FEZ/Guide]] for more details.


According to [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulations], to get the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|ancient armour}} set it will likely take:
{{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|Ancient Armour}} is not required for {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}} if you're willing to Manual Eat that dungeon 2-5 times. <br>
It is hotly debated what the correct course of action would be in many circumstances. This guide will not recommend either way and will merely present the options to the Player. <br>
* {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|Ancient Armour}} is required for a 100% safe idle setup for {{ZoneIcon|Air God Dungeon}}, but will take an estimated 35+ hours to obtain.
* When using a Manual Eat for a couple of clears {{ItemIcon|(G) Rune Helmet|Rune Armour}} or {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Helmet|Dragon Armour}} will suffice.
 
 
According to [https://github.com/hm0809/MelvorProbDist/blob/main/main.py simulations], to get the full {{ItemIcon|(G) Ancient Helmet|Ancient Armour}} set it will likely take:
* 640 clears with a 50% chance
* 640 clears with a 50% chance
* 817 clears with a 75% chance
* 817 clears with a 75% chance
* 1377 clears with a 95% chance
* 1377 clears with a 95% chance


===When to Clear Volcanic Cave?===
=When to Clear Volcanic Cave?=


There are no downsides to attempting Volcanic Cave early as you will obtain powerful gear if you manage to complete it. However, it will be a significant challenge if you attempt this dungeon under-levelled.
There are no downsides to attempting Volcanic Cave early as you will obtain powerful gear if you manage to complete it. However, it will be a significant challenge if you attempt this dungeon under-levelled.
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In general, you will want at least {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|70}} so that you can equip the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Helmet|Ancient Armor}} and you should be able to complete {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} relatively easily before attempting this dungeon. Ideally, you will want sufficient {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat}} to survive the dungeon without resorting to manual eating, but if you take this route then see the last section for further recommendations on how to survive the dungeon the hard way.
In general, you will want at least {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|70}} so that you can equip the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Helmet|Ancient Armor}} and you should be able to complete {{ZoneIcon|Dragons Den}} relatively easily before attempting this dungeon. Ideally, you will want sufficient {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat}} to survive the dungeon without resorting to manual eating, but if you take this route then see the last section for further recommendations on how to survive the dungeon the hard way.


=== Ancient Magicks ===
== Ancient Magicks ==
After you clear the Volcanic Cave 100 times you gain access to [[Ancient Magicks]] which are a more powerful form of magic. When you have a Ancient Magicks spell equipped, there are no curses available, but you can still use Auroras.
After you clear the Volcanic Cave 100 times you gain access to [[Ancient Magicks]] which are a more powerful form of magic. When you have a Ancient Magicks spell equipped, there are no curses available, but you can still use Auroras.


In general, the spells you receive are very powerful:
The spells you receive are:
* {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell|Winds}} is best used when your chance to hit is relatively low because you are guaranteed not to miss if your accuracy is 20,000+.
* {{Icon|Slicing Winds|type=spell|Winds}} is best used when your chance to hit is relatively low because you are guaranteed not to miss if your accuracy is 20,000+.
* {{Icon|Ignite|type=spell}} is a more powerful spell and has a good chance of killing monsters in one-shot.
* {{Icon|Ignite|type=spell}} is a more powerful spell and has a good chance of killing monsters in one-shot.
* {{Icon|Icicle Volley|type=spell}} is a good all rounder, and can be used in all other cases.
* {{Icon|Icicle Volley|type=spell}} is a good all rounder, and can be used in all other cases.


Ancient Magick spells do not scale in the same way as standard magic (i.e. with equipment buffs and debuffs), but they are still impacted by the [[Combat Triangle]] in the normal way. Typically, when you first obtain [[Ancient Magicks]] it is more powerful than the regular magic and so should used in preference. However, late-game these spells will not scale with gear and so will become less useful.
Ancient Magick spells do not scale in the same way as standard magic (i.e. with equipment buffs and debuffs), but they are still impacted by the [[Combat Triangle]] in the normal way. Typically, when you first obtain [[Ancient Magicks]] it is more powerful than the regular magic and so should used in preference. However, these fall off relatively quickly.


==Gear To Idle==
=Gear To Idle=
The boss of {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} uses the {{Icon|Melee}} style and so it is not recommended that you attempt to idle this dungeon with {{Skill|Ranged}} due to the [[Combat Triangle]] penalties. This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}} equipped which greatly reduces the DR requirements.
The boss of {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} uses the {{Icon|Melee}} style and so it is not recommended that you attempt to idle this dungeon with {{Skill|Ranged}} due to the [[Combat Triangle]] penalties. This guide assumes that you have {{UpgradeIcon|Auto Eat - Tier III}} equipped which greatly reduces the DR requirements.


The calculations in this guide assume {{Icon|Hardcore}}/{{Icon|Adventure}} modes, and so should work for most play styles, however if you have lower HP or DR than the guide recommends then check out [https://zxv975.github.io/CanIIdle/ Can I Idle] or the [[Combat Simulator]] to see if you build will survive.
=Standard Guide=
 
The following Setups were calculated without any [[Pets]], {{Skill|Astrology}} or [[Potions]]. <br>
These Guides will only assume the required {{Skill|Hitpoints}} and {{Skill|Agility}} based on not having any of those, if you do have [[Pets]] like {{PetIcon|Leonardo}} or {{PetIcon|Finn}}, you may be able to get away with slightly less.
 
 
==Melee==
 
The following table shows a {{ItemIcon|(G) Rune Helmet|Rune Armour}} setup.
Both sets have roughly the same amount of clears per hour.
 
* {{ItemIcon|(G) Rune Helmet|Rune Armour}} will require:
** {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|77}}
** {{SkillReq|Agility|70}}.
* {{ItemIcon|(G) Dragon Helmet|Dragon Armour}} you will require:
** {{SkillReq|Hitpoints|74}}
** {{SkillReq|Agility|50}}
 
===Gear===


===Melee===
You can equip a {{ItemIcon|Sandstorm Ring}} for around 3.5-4 more clears per hour. You will need 1 more level in {{Skill|Hitpoints}}.
{{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} is often idled with {{Icon|Melee}} because the {{ItemIcon|Dragon Helmet|dragon}} armor set can be obtained with {{SkillReq|Smithing|99}}, further, the armour can be [[Upgrading Items|upgraded]] to provide 30% DR.


This {{Icon|Melee}} build requires {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=820|type=skill}} to idle the dungeon. However, this should be seen as a minimum DR/HP, and any less will push you below the max hit of {{Icon|Malcs, the Guardian of Melvor|type=monster|Malcs}}. The {{ItemIcon|Sandstorm Ring}} can be omitted, but at the expense of clear time.
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}} & {{PrayerIcon|Chivalry}}


{{Equipment/Recommended
{{Equipment/Recommended
|style=Melee
|style = Melee
|showDR=true
|helm1 = (G) Rune Helmet
|helm1=(G) Dragon Helmet
|body1 = (G) Rune Platebody
|neck1=Elite Amulet of Defence
|legs1 = (G) Rune Platelegs
|cape1=Knight's Cape
|boots1 = (G) Rune Boots
|body1=(G) Dragon Platebody
|gloves1 = Paladin Gloves
|legs1=(G) Dragon Platelegs
|cape1 = Knight's Cape
|weapon1=Sunset Rapier
|neck1 = Elite Amulet of Defence
|shield1=(G) Dragon Shield
|ring1 = Silver Diamond Ring
|gloves1=Paladin Gloves
|weapon1 = Sunset Rapier
|ring1=Sandstorm Ring
|shield1 = (G) Rune Shield
|boots1=(G) Dragon Boots
}}
 
 
===Agility===
 
{{AgilityCourseTable
|Cargo Net
|River Crossing
|Pipe Climb
|Coal Stones
|Cliff Balance
|Rocky Waters
|Boulder Trap
|Raft Building
|showtotals = false
|showcosts = false
|showrequirements = false
}}
}}


Lower tiers of armor may be used if HP or DR is increased through other sources such as {{Skill|Agility}}, {{Skill|Summoning}}, or more {{Skill|Hitpoints}} levels, etc.
===[[Combat Simulator]] Export===
 
[https://pastebin.com/6v1kmrR1 Combat Simulator Export]
 


===Pre-Volcanic Magic===
==Pre-Volcanic Magic==


Idling with {{Skill|Magic}} is recommended once you have stronger gear as it will ultimately speed up your clear times.
Idling with {{Skill|Magic}} is recommended once you have stronger gear as it will ultimately speed up your clear times.
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|boots1=Air Expert Wizard Boots
|boots1=Air Expert Wizard Boots
}}
}}


{{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes|Fire Robes}} have the exact same stats as {{ItemIcon|Air Expert Wizard Robes|Air Robes}}. The secondary effect of robes (+20 minimum hit for matching spells) outweighs the damage increase of higher level spells. However, you should use the highest level spell and robe combination available to you. For example, if available, use the {{ItemIcon|Ring of Spirit Power}} instead of the {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} for more damage/second.
{{ItemIcon|Fire Expert Wizard Robes|Fire Robes}} have the exact same stats as {{ItemIcon|Air Expert Wizard Robes|Air Robes}}. The secondary effect of robes (+20 minimum hit for matching spells) outweighs the damage increase of higher level spells. However, you should use the highest level spell and robe combination available to you. For example, if available, use the {{ItemIcon|Ring of Spirit Power}} instead of the {{ItemIcon|Aorpheat's Signet Ring}} for more damage/second.
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}}
}}


===100+ Volcanoes Magic===
==100+ Volcanoes Magic==


After clearing the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} 100 times you will unlock [[Ancient Magicks]] which require a minimum of {{SkillReq|Magic|72}}.
After clearing the {{ZoneIcon|Volcanic Cave}} 100 times you will unlock [[Ancient Magicks]] which require a minimum of {{SkillReq|Magic|72}}.
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