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Below is a basic build that needs {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|90}} to create, {{SkillReq|Magic|78}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=870|type=skill|HP}} to idle. | Below is a basic build that needs {{SkillReq|Runecrafting|90}} to create, {{SkillReq|Magic|78}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=870|type=skill|HP}} to idle. | ||
The spell of choice is {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes. | The spell of choice is {{Icon|Fire Surge|type=spell}} with combination runes. <br> | ||
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}} & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Mastery}} | |||
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|gloves1=Paladin Gloves | |gloves1=Paladin Gloves | ||
|ring1=Silver Diamond Ring | |||
|boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots | |boots1=Fire Expert Wizard Boots | ||
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The following build needs {{SkillReq|Attack|70}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=800|type=skill|HP}} to idle. | The following build needs {{SkillReq|Attack|70}} to wear, and {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=800|type=skill|HP}} to idle. <br> | ||
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Incredible Reflexes}} & {{PrayerIcon|Chivalry}} | |||
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For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} and needs {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty= | For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the {{ItemIcon|Ancient Claw}} and needs {{Icon|Hitpoints|qty=800|type=skill|HP}} to idle. <br> | ||
Prayers: {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Lore}} & {{PrayerIcon|Mystic Mastery}} | |||
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|gloves1=Elementalist Gloves | |gloves1=Elementalist Gloves | ||
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Revision as of 09:42, 28 May 2024
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Why Clear Dragons Den?
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Dragons Denis usually cleared for the
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Ancient Crossbow, 
(U) Ancient D-hide Vambraces, and 
(U) Ancient D-hide Shield because they are wanted for the
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Air and
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Water God Dungeons. The (U) Ancient D-hide Shield can be upgraded into the 
Scaled Shield, a bis ranged shield for a very long time.
Other parts of the 
Ancient set are of little importance because you will use the 
Aeris God Armour for the
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Water God Dungeon. Keep them only if you didn't already get your
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Rangedto level 85.
Gear to idle
Because all enemies in
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Dragons Denare
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Melee, it is advised to use a
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Magicor
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Meleebuild due to the Combat Triangle. This guide assumes that you have
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Auto Eat - Tier III. 
Crabs were used as a food of choice to reflect the approximate cooking level at the time of clearing the dungeon.
The simulations are run on a character with lvl 80 in all combat skills except
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Hitpoints.
Due to the wide range of cases, it is recommended to use the Combat Simulator to compare the options tailored for your situation.
The ring slot in the given builds is free. It is suggested to use 
Ring of Wealth if you have it or 
Aorpheat's Signet Ring otherwise.
According to the simulation - it takes, on average, 506 Elder Chest opens to obtain all items from the
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Dragons Den. It takes 657 opens to obtain all items from the
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Dragons Denwith a 75% probability and 1165 opens to obtain all items with a 95% probability.
Basic Magic
Below is a basic build that needs
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Level 90to create,
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Level 78to wear, and
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HPto idle. The spell of choice is
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Fire Surge with combination runes.
Prayers:
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Mystic Lore&
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Mystic Mastery
| Slot | Item | DR% |
|---|---|---|
 |  Fire Expert Wizard Hat | 5% |
 |  Fire Expert Wizard Robes | 5% |
 |  Fire Expert Wizard Bottoms | 5% |
 |  Fire Expert Wizard Boots | 5% |
 |  Paladin Gloves | 4% |
 |  Amulet of Magic | 0% |
 |  Silver Diamond Ring | 1% |
 |  Magic Wand (Powerful) | 0% |
 |  Miolite Shield | 2% |
| Total | 27% | |
Melee
The following build needs
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Level 70to wear, and
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HP to idle.
Prayers:
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Incredible Reflexes&
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Chivalry
| Slot | Item | DR% |
|---|---|---|
|  (G) Rune Helmet | 5% |
|  (G) Rune Platebody | 5% |
|  (G) Rune Platelegs | 5% |
|  (G) Dragon Boots | 6% |
| Paladin Gloves | 4% |
|  Elite Amulet of Defence | 2% |
| Silver Diamond Ring | 1% |
|  Sunset Rapier or  Ancient Claw | 0% |
|  (G) Rune Shield | 5% |
| Total | 33% | |
Advanced Magic
For comparison, here's the magic build that takes less time to acquire than the Ancient Claw and needs
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HP to idle.
Prayers:
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Mystic Lore&
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Mystic Mastery
Adjusted Clear Time
Adjusted clear time is the time it takes to prepare all needed food and runes plus the time of the clear itself.
| Build | Adjusted clears per hour |
|---|---|
| Sunset Rapier
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3.7 |
| Basic Magic | 4.1 |
| Ancient Claw
|
4.1 |
| Advanced Magic | 5.8 |
| Details |
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| Adjusted clear time [math]\displaystyle{ A }[/math] is calculated by dividing the overall time [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} }[/math] by the number of dungeons [math]\displaystyle{ D_h }[/math] cleared per one hour.
The overall time [math]\displaystyle{ T_{all} }[/math] is calculated by the sum of one hour plus the time required to produce the The Error creating thumbnail: File missing Fire Surge with the combination runes is used.
The approximate Error creating thumbnail: File missing Dragon Pickaxe upgrade - 1.3 seconds. The number of needed essence considers all runes used in crafting:  Essence,  Air,  Fire,  Smoke and  Ancient runes.
[math]\displaystyle{ T_m = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) / 16 + 1 / 16 + 7 / 16) * 1.3 = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 1.3 + 7 / 16 * 1.3 }[/math] For [math]\displaystyle{ T_r }[/math] compared to [math]\displaystyle{ T_m }[/math], the difference is that we don't account for one rune essence in the [math]\displaystyle{ T_r = N * (7 * (2/16 + 2/16) + 1) / 16 * 2 }[/math] You can check out the intermediate steps with the following Google Sheet (link). |
Advanced Magic is the clear leader, therefore it is recommended to farm the Dragons Den dungeon with the Advanced Magic build.
Food Expenditure
The bulk of time is spent on preparing food, so it's heavily recommended to level your food-producing methods when possible. As an example, with some upgrades (
Fishing Skillcape, 
Cooking Skillcape, 99 mastery, top fishing rod,
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Amulet of Fishing), the fishing and cooking times are the following:
| Food | Fishing time (s) | Cooking time (s) | HP | HP per second |
|---|---|---|---|---|
 Whale (Perfect)
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1.97 | 9.35 | 580 | 51.2 |
| Crab
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0.96 | 5.95 | 150 | 21.7 |
In other words, if you prepare Whales instead of Crabs, you would more than double your speed of food preparation, which is a huge boost to the clear time.
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